• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Maybe it’s time you guys rewrote your constitution into something more modern instead of treating the old one as a holy scripture handed down from Olympus.

    But I doubt that’ll ever happen.

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      12 hours ago

      The document is open to interpretation. It can mean anything you want it to mean. For example, the first amendment is used to guarantee that unlimited amounts of money can be spent on election campaigns. So I’m not sure rewriting the thing would accomplish anything other than forcing the oligarchs to figure out new legal loopholes.

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      22 hours ago

      I’d like the 1st amendment to be altered slightly. Sure, everyone should be free to speak without government sanction but that shouldn’t mean freedom to lie. Fox and the rightwing have been abusing the shit out of it for years.

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        14 hours ago

        This is a terrible, horrible idea. It would give the government the power to censor anyone and anything, and all they have to do is claim that the thing they are censoring is a lie.

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          13 hours ago

          Well treating lies to be as valid as fact has brought you half a population living in their own reality and Trump as president.

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            9 hours ago

            Placing exceptions on the freedom of speech does not mean that lies will get silenced. It means that whatever the government wants to censor will get silenced. Because the government will be the one who does the censoring. Or, if the censoring is not done by the government directly - the government will still be the one appointing the organization who does the censoring.

            The freedom of speech must be protected - even if it means letting bad agents spread their lies uncensored. Because if you try to give the government the power to censor them, you’ll end up with a new Department of Truth led by Alex Jones (who is now unoccupied)

            • Llamatron@lemmy.world
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              12 hours ago

              How would you tackle the lies or are you happy that Fox is able to conjure up its own version of reality with no pushback?

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                6 hours ago

                Instead of modifying freedom of speech, make large-scale lies jusification to banish someone from the industry, like sex-offenders and schools.

                Still a bit vague and as always figuring out what’s true is hard and ajudicating truth is even harder, but any errors won’t be nearly as bad, and it would still be effective.

                The core issue here is still agreeing on truth though. Can you define a method of ajudicating truth that can’t be misused by an overwhelming amount of bad-faith actors? Can you bind an organization to a method even if every member wants something else?

        • 4grams@lemmy.world
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          11 hours ago

          Why do people pretend like a piece of paper matters. Trump has all the power and there are no checks and balances left. Imagine if he breaks the constitution, are zombie Washington, Jefferson and Franklin going to rise from the grave and enact vengeance?

          Every rule that’s been broken was unbreakable until it was broken.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      1 day ago

      Now is definitely not the time to rewrite the constitution. Could you imagine what the powers that be would do to it?

        • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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          6 hours ago

          Already in effect. Lost of basic services require a mailing address, which means either rent or property taxes. Medical care often requires a job to grant insurance, and any chronic or ongoing illness is the definition of a subscription.