• testfactor@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Ah, yes, I forgot. Those two famously still in power people… checks notes… Barak Obama and Joe Biden.

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      8 hours ago

      They meant system, but I’ll bite, Mao “stepped down” after his failed cultural revolution

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        6 hours ago

        American pseudodemocracy is easier to overthrow than authoritarian state capitalism. Things are pretty awful in America, but a lot of folks underestimate the depths of how awful a system can get. They think their worst day is the worst day that ever happened. They’re sheltered.

        I saw a lot of people on Reddit in 2016 saying that Trump would shake the system up and convince people to join the left and start a revolution. Did we do it? Did we shake the system up? Were they right?

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          2 hours ago

          A lot of people and countries have soured on America and it’s imperialist project thanks to trump. And America has less support than ever for its illegal wars these days. So yeah it worked.

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                52 minutes ago

                Well, things aren’t always as they seem. Trump may seem like a populist who “tells it like it is” and wants peace for Palestine, but he’s not!

                https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/trump-administration-bars-palestinian-authority-president-un-general-assembly-ano3fdsm

                The Trump administration has denied Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas permission to enter the US, where he was set to attend the upcoming annual UN General Assembly in New York City.

                https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesman/2025/08/trump-administration-reaffirms-commitment-to-not-reward-terrorism-and-revokes-visas-of-palestinian-officials-ahead-of-unga/

                In accordance with U.S. law, Secretary of State Marco Rubio is denying and revoking visas from members of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the Palestinian Authority (PA) ahead of the upcoming United Nations General Assembly. The Trump Administration has been clear: it is in our national security interests to hold the PLO and PA accountable for not complying with their commitments, and for undermining the prospects for peace.

                Before the PLO and PA can be considered partners for peace, they must consistently repudiate terrorism — including the October 7 massacre — and end incitement to terrorism in education, as required by U.S. law and as promised by the PLO. The PA must also end its attempts to bypass negotiations through international lawfare campaigns, including appeals to the ICC and ICJ, and efforts to secure the unilateral recognition of a conjectural Palestinian state. Both steps materially contributed to Hamas’s refusal to release its hostages, and to the breakdown of the Gaza ceasefire talks.

                Translation: The Trump admin wants Palestine to stop suing Israel for genocide at the ICC, or they won’t let diplomats come to the UN meetings. These people hate Palestinians and are sabotaging peace talks.

                You need to care more about Palestinian lives.

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                  42 minutes ago

                  It’s not like the Pepsi party will suddenly fund Palestine’s case in the ICC or work towards an independent Palestinian state either, will it? There have been numerous Pepsi governments since 1948, and things have progressively gotten worse for Palestinians.

                  The slightly less evil appearance of the progressive neoliberals only obfiscates the overall evil of the ideology. And because Trump does no such thing, we get to witness neoliberalism as it is, and that is refreshing and gives us more clarity on what is right and wrong.

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                    38 minutes ago

                    Zizek has an anecdote about authoritarian parent and less authoritarian parent that applies here, and I agree with him fully now.

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                    30 minutes ago

                    I don’t care about clarity, I care about lives! If one more Palestinian child starves to death under Trump than would under Biden, then I prefer Biden! Slightly less evil? Slightly less dead children? Yes please! Because the alternative is doing nothing; sitting in our rooms and posting about how sad it is that these children are dying. I prefer voting to doing nothing. I prefer protesting to doing nothing. I prefer giving mutual aid to doing nothing.

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          3 hours ago

          Let’s be clear, accelerationism is a morally bankrupt strategy and never works to the degree its proponents think it will. But it is also undeniable that leftist ideologies have not been this popular in America since the 1920s.

          It’s not entirely due to Trump, but rather the dialectical relationship between the capitalist mode of production and the innate human rejection of oppression.

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            2 hours ago

            I agree that popular opinion has gone very far to the left. But the danger of accelerationism is that it always leads to political disenfranchisement in equal or greater measure. Thus, popular opinion becomes decoupled from government action, and government action slides right.

            We are creating a society of radical socialists who can’t do anything to put their ideas into praxis. The levers of power are retreating from our reach as the elections become more rigged, and at the same time, the rich infect us with mind-viruses that psychologically disempower us, and turn our energy to unproductive strategies. We are lefter, but weaker. The end result is still a slide to the right.