Summary: A man on a United Airlines flight attacked a sleeping passenger, punching him repeatedly until his face was bruised and bloody. The suspect, Everett Chad Nelson, claimed the victim had attacked him earlier, but a witness stated Nelson’s attack lasted about a minute and the victim did not fight back. The FAA is investigating the incident, which is one of over 1,700 unruly passenger incidents reported this year.

  • andrewta@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    29
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Air marshals? And even if there isn’t one on board they can land and have the police waiting there

    And no I’m not tough. But I’m not going down without a fight.

    • variants@possumpat.io
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      2 months ago

      But you’re asleep and next thing you know someone is punching your face and now you can’t see because you have fists in your eyes plus you probably have a seat belt on and you can’t get it off because your hands are probably trying to shield you

      • andrewta@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        2 months ago

        Your hands will still or at least should still come up. You should be swinging back. Even if you can’t fully figure out exactly who your assailant is. That’s fighting back. Why would you just sit there?

    • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      You don’t know what Air Mashals do if you think they’re the type of cop that intervenes in passenger vs passenger fights. They’re there to stop the plane from being hijacked or crashed by a saboteur.

      How long do you think it would take to fly down to pick up a cop? Minutes, perhaps? Intriguing.

      You’ve never been in a real fight if you’re that confident you’d prevail in an ambush by a crazy person while restrained by a seat belt.

      • jaybone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        I’m not as smart and tough as that guy you’re replying to, but wouldn’t an air Marshall detain people for fighting? I thought I’ve read stories where they have in the past, but maybe I’m not remembering correctly.

        • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          Maybe, maybe not. The fight could be a distraction to draw the air marshal into the open and into a vulnerable situation so that a highjacking can take place. As long as there isn’t immediate danger of loss of life, they might choose to let some guy get punched in order to continue their primary job of protecting 300 other people. Or they might step in.

      • andrewta@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        2 months ago

        Who said anything about prevailing or winning? I said fighting back I never said winning.

          • andrewta@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            So what you are saying is…

            Since I would probably lose the fight and get my ass handed to me but I wouldn’t just sit there, then that means I’m tough and cool?

            Interesting take.

            You have a good night.

            • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              Feeling compelled to tell internet strangers that you would never lose consciousness or composure if you were ambushed by someone seated next to you while you were restrained at the waist means you’re definitely very tough, very cool, and very experienced in hand to hand combat.

      • andrewta@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        So which part makes me a Moron?

        The part where if someone hits me I’m going to swing back?

        The part where if there is a law enforcement official is present that I expect them to step in and stop one person from attacking another?

        The part where if an air marshal is on an air plane and two people are fighting (putting the plane and passengers at risk) I would expect the Marshall to do something?

        The part in another comment where I said something to the effect of "even if I don’t think I’ll win, which I probably wouldn’t win, I won’t go without a fight ", does that make me a moron?

        I ask because you are making the claim that my arguments (point of view) basically aren’t normal.

        Here’s a question for you: if someone hits you what would you do? Would you just sit there?