I am not a teen.

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 days ago

    Exactly this. A lot of media is atrocious about shoehorning in things even if they are jarring and dont make sense. Token characters (race, sexuality), token ideologies (veganism, feminism, religion, etc), stereotypes, you name it.

    Edit: and famous celebrities for no apparent reason. Surprise! Your favorite character from the book this movie is based on is now played by Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.

    • CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Yeah because everyone in media needs to be straight, white, and Christian. 🙄

      Representation matters.

      • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Sure, but I get what they mean. Sometimes you have a minority character that doesn’t very much seem to interact with the plot, nor has many discernable personality trait beyond being part of a minority.

        Representation matters, but it should be done in a way that makes the characters actual people, not just a tick in a checkbox.

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          And there is definitely a tokenism issue in Hollywood. There’s a reason why the “gay best friend” is a Hollywood stereotype.

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        11 days ago

        They’re saying that characters irrelevant to the plot having diverse roles feels forced. Wouldn’t you agree diverse roles should be in meaningful roles like leads?

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          No, I don’t think I would agree. If I walk down the street, I’m going to see people of all types. Why should including people of all types in media be any different? Having more diversity in lead roles is preferable, yes, but I don’t see what feels “forced” about more diversity across all roles. If anything, it seems like that would be more realistic.

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      People downvoting as a reactionary for making them feel bad, but I agree.

      Having a stereotype as a character for the sake of “representation” is not representing anything good and is not doing justice to anyone who would be more than a single note character.

      I’m tired of bad writing and gimmicks to get people to have a reaction to an otherwise bad story, but that doesn’t mean I want movies with none of the topics in it, I just want it to mean something when it’s there.

      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 days ago

        Exactly.

        (Natural/Organic storytelling) The Boys: Maeve, Kimiko, and Starlight, beating the shit out of Stormfront

        Vs

        (Forced/jarring) That scene in Avengers Endgame, where every female character from across a massive battlefield appeared next to each other. As opposed to the scene in Infinity War with Proxima Midnight which felt fairly natural.

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          10 days ago

          Or even better, movies actually dedicated to telling stories about underrepresented cultures such as The Woman King

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            10 days ago

            I remember seeing trailers about that, completely forgot to actually go watch it. I’ll add it to my watch list (someday I’ll start watching things on the list)