“We can have a society shaped by the will of the people rather than a handful of oligarchs”
We can(?), but we don’t and won’t. It’s like you and I live in a different world, I don’t have any idea where what you describe exists or when it existed.
Youre describing an American ideal that I’ve never seen. We’ve been xenophobic from 1776 onward. It’s like you have the generic G-rated version of America down, but not anything resembling the real America that I’ve lived in.
MLK for example; he is held to high esteem in USA today, but he accomplished little compared to, say, The Black Panthers, who armed themselves with shotguns and followed police on patrol. THAT is why the civil rights movement progressed. This is the will of the people in action. Every right we’ve gained has been in spite of our political system since at least the 1950s.
Any counter examples would be appreciated. But this is the America that I am from, this is what works
Youre describing an American ideal that I’ve never seen.
I’m describing an American ideal that no one has ever seen. The entire developed world has been suckered into neoliberalism, which is government captured by business interests. And this has made all of it ripe for far-right movements which will get plenty of funding and support from the plutocratic class, who likes hierarchic social structure, since they’re at the top already.
But the US (and other nations) have moved toward the ideal of a pluralistic liberal democratic society, without quite getting there or fully debugging it.
This time we’re seeing the patrician class as the existential threat that it is. This time we’re seeing the catastrophic risks that our ultra wealthy are facilitating – or at least are allowing to happen without intervention – in their desperation for more wealth and more control, and in their astounding collective incompetence.
This time, we address the threat of wealth disparity, of capture of the political class, of monopolistic powers, or we’ll never have the chance again, at least until the survivors crawl out from their shelters once again, centuries from now.
“we’ve been xenophobic” only if you identify america as the land populated solely by the white male capitalist. Many minorities understand america can be badass if the ethnic majority and then the working class just got their shit together. I’m speaking as one of those minorities. The working class can never earn their fair share as long as the ethnic majority continues to hate minorities.
I will agree that capitalist white men in america are complacent and apathetic towards the plight of minorities. That part of america keeps the good parts of america from shining.
“We can have a society shaped by the will of the people rather than a handful of oligarchs”
We can(?), but we don’t and won’t. It’s like you and I live in a different world, I don’t have any idea where what you describe exists or when it existed.
Youre describing an American ideal that I’ve never seen. We’ve been xenophobic from 1776 onward. It’s like you have the generic G-rated version of America down, but not anything resembling the real America that I’ve lived in.
MLK for example; he is held to high esteem in USA today, but he accomplished little compared to, say, The Black Panthers, who armed themselves with shotguns and followed police on patrol. THAT is why the civil rights movement progressed. This is the will of the people in action. Every right we’ve gained has been in spite of our political system since at least the 1950s.
Any counter examples would be appreciated. But this is the America that I am from, this is what works
https://www.pushblack.us/news/60s-panthers-policed-police-legacy-continues-today
Youre describing an American ideal that I’ve never seen.
I’m describing an American ideal that no one has ever seen. The entire developed world has been suckered into neoliberalism, which is government captured by business interests. And this has made all of it ripe for far-right movements which will get plenty of funding and support from the plutocratic class, who likes hierarchic social structure, since they’re at the top already.
But the US (and other nations) have moved toward the ideal of a pluralistic liberal democratic society, without quite getting there or fully debugging it.
This time we’re seeing the patrician class as the existential threat that it is. This time we’re seeing the catastrophic risks that our ultra wealthy are facilitating – or at least are allowing to happen without intervention – in their desperation for more wealth and more control, and in their astounding collective incompetence.
This time, we address the threat of wealth disparity, of capture of the political class, of monopolistic powers, or we’ll never have the chance again, at least until the survivors crawl out from their shelters once again, centuries from now.
“we’ve been xenophobic” only if you identify america as the land populated solely by the white male capitalist. Many minorities understand america can be badass if the ethnic majority and then the working class just got their shit together. I’m speaking as one of those minorities. The working class can never earn their fair share as long as the ethnic majority continues to hate minorities.
I will agree that capitalist white men in america are complacent and apathetic towards the plight of minorities. That part of america keeps the good parts of america from shining.