• Lemming421@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt

    Well that’s a good first step

    but the guy also looks and acts like he might be on drugs, and he’s out in public not wearing a shirt

    As yes, those two infamous crimes of “possibly being on drugs” and “no shirt, no presumption of innocence”

    Come on man. Be better.

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      10 months ago

      If you automatically side with the supposed victim despite the clear lack of any information about prior events leading to this scene, I might as well accuse you of “uniform and badge, no presumption of innocence”. It’s just as biased and therefore bigoted as the opposite stance.

      That’s why we have the courts, though. The cops will have to prove that they had a legitimate reason to make an arrest or the judge will just let the guy go. Happens often enough, believe it or not.

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        10 months ago

        Arrest, yes. I’m less on board with the violence. I’m all about a proportionate response.

        And that’s in general terms. There’s a reason people think all cops are bastards and it’s not because they dislike the colour blue.

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          10 months ago

          Again, without being able to see what happened before the video started, it’s hard to judge whether this was a proportionate response or not.

          If your default assumption is ACAB and they’re just doing this to hurt him because they can, then you’re just as biased as you’re accusing me of being. And I’m not saying the cops are by always innocent by default, but I’ve also seen enough people like this guy act like major dickheads before claiming to be a victim of police brutality.

          But once again, if he did nothing wrong, I hope he goes free. And with a nice check to boot, if they did use excessive force. But that’s up to the judge to decide, not me.

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          10 months ago

          Ok but resisting arrest IS a crime. If you haven’t done anything wrong, just let them arrest you, they can’t keep you locked up without charging you with something.

          Every single case of someone being convicted only for resisting arrest is a case where it would have been better for them to comply since the cops clearly either didn’t find anything else or couldn’t make any of the other charges stick.