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    The moment Newsom came onto the stage, I thought he had the vibes of a used car salesman. I still think that is apt.

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    Hey DNC: There is literally no scenario where I will ever vote for Newsom for President. I would rather not vote and flee the country. Put up a real fucking candidate or everyone loses.

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      Hey look, more people on Lemmy trying to discourage voter turnout if the candidate is not perfect.

      I dont want Newsom to be president either, but if he makes it past the primaries it’s sure as shit better than the alternative. Even if both sides have bad candidates, they are never equally bad - both sides are not the same here. And the current administration has proven that even if you leave the US, the shit storm spreads well outside our borders.

      Vote for your ideals in the primaries, but don’t throw a temper tantrum when your candidate doesn’t make it past the post. That’s how we got to where we are today, and everyone in the world to some degree has to suffer through the incompetence.

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        if he makes it past the primaries

        If.

        It hasn’t happened yet, and so this sort of rhetoric is appropriate now. If Ledivin were talking about some House candidate in the current election cycle, I’d be with you, but he’s talking about the election two years from now and there’s still time to get rid of Newsom.

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          The dnc will rig the primaries to force a fascist neoliberal genocide supporting corporatist shitbag who won’t reverse project 2025, hold anyone accountable, put the Epstein pedophiles in prison, oppose the genocidal fundamentalist fascist colony of Israel or reverse the mass surveillance project.

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            So let’s do the same, but towards the left. It’s been successful for the right so far. Why wouldn’t it be for us?

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          Of course “if”… But they are literally replying to a post where the user says they will never vote for Newsom. That is the sentiment I see persisting too across left leaning spaces… Even if trump tears up the constitution and runs for a third term, the purity testers on the left would rather not vote and give the right a lower bar to maintain power. This sentiment is dangerous and in my opinion contributed to why Kamala lost, and poses a direct risk to the lives and rights of my kids. It needs to be called out.

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            But they are literally replying to a post where the user says they will never vote for Newsom.

            Claiming that publicly so the Democratic Party hears it right now is good, as long as it’s a bluff.

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              Nah, it’s not a bluff. Stop putting up shitty right-leaning centrists or lose. I’m done fighting for shitty people, and I have the means to leave 🤷‍♂️ selfish? Of course. I don’t care, anymore. The DNC can get their shit together or die.

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                Your brinkmanship and uncompromising have cost my daughter rights, and I have no respect for you. I want progressive policies. In my hierarchy of preferences, I want a progressive, then a centrist democrat, then a Republican. This whole mentality of “progressive or stay home” is a cancer on the rights of the marginalized. Under Kamala, things wouldn’t be fixed, but they would sure as shit be better than trump. Your attitude has no different of a result than being “pro trump.” When the chips are down, you are handed options, but you vote for the better option. Statement votes killed Gazans.

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                  History and statistics don’t agree with you. If every leftist in the country voted for Kamala, she still lost. Your demand for constant compromise of human rights has led to their decline. Refusing to entertain non-right candidates has given us the ratchet effect that led to your daughter’s suffering. Great job advocating for the strategy that hurts her, though!

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        Enjoy continuing your slow decline into fascism. We could have had good candidates decades ago, but your kind refuse to actually pursue progress.

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          You’re want to accelerate the decline to fascism. Presumably becuase you are not a marginalized group.

          But it’s a foolish game, like hoping for an apocalypses because you think you’ll be among the long term survivors.

          However, if you’re just suicide, please leave us out of it. Only cowards take others down with them.

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    Centrist democrats only have one strategy since the 1990s.

    They attack the left while expecting their vote and support. They embrace the right while being called a communist and never getting their vote.

    Just a bunch of corporate losers.

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      Their job is to suppress the left and pull the country right, a little at a time

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        It’s not really about being conservative or centrist, it’s about serving the interests of the rich.

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          And you’ll notice the media owned by the rich wants you to call them centrists instead of what they are in actuality which is conservatives. So let’s not further the use of a language used by the wealthy to fool the masses.

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          it is thought, conservatives and rich/hierarchy goes and in hand though. there is not actual center in america, its actually CENTER right at the most, and far right at the worst.

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    The next likely governor, Xavier Becerra will be no different. California deserves better than this. Also fuck Newsome, he obviously doesn’t care if another GOP candidate wins the presidential elections because he decided to run.

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      both NYC and CALI is pretty bipolar in thier politics, they have R leaning gov, while being dem as a whole. this likely due to the amount of RICH people living both places.

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    I’m going to keep saying this between now and ‘28: Democratic primary voters, if he does this to us, he’ll do it to you.