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Elon Musk has had atleast one if not more one hour+ appearances at far right AfD party rallies in Germany when he was still with the US government.
Remember that the US Vice Twat JD Vance travelled to Hungary to explicitly support Orban.
I don’t remember that the US top leadership has ever travelled to a European country to try and affect an election before, it has probably happened though, and I am sure the CIA or other intelligence agencies/entities have have carried out propaganda campaigns in european countries to change outcomes of elections.
It just sucks…
USA already rigged the votation in Italy to decided whether to establish a monarchy or republic, i am not surprised if they rigged or influenced any other votation in other european countries…
Remember that the US Vice Twat JD Vance travelled to Hungary to explicitly support Orban.
…and it failed spectacularly, just like his visit to the Pope ended with the church having to replace the poor, broken man. #popekiller
It’s not wrong to be cautious, and we shouldn’t underestimate the U.S. fascists - particularly not the determined grey men standing in second row behind the more public figures. But even though they act all high and mighty they’re only men: petty men, little men, whose grandiose plans have backfired more than once. Sometimes they cannot even fix a fucking pool.
So be on the lookout, but do not despair, do not become cynical, and do not paint these fascist clowns as supervillains whose plans will inevitably come to fruition. They won’t. They will fail. And when the time is right, they’ll get what’s coming for them.
JD Wanker also visited the Pope - who died shortly afterwards.
Whoever this guy visits should be VERY afraid - as the reaper is three steps behind him
Make them spend their money on fake elections, then make the real elections. We profit and we are rich!. /J
Doesn’t matter, western “democracy” is just smoke and mirrors put on by capitalists
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What do you think this is?
Politico Owner Axel Springer Gives Prize to Far Right Billionaire Peter Thiel
Definitely no valid argument against “western democracy”. Do you think having your oligarchs “under control” and throwing them out of the window is so much better?
Criticising the EU or the US doesn’t condone Russia or China. There is no need to copy them.
Do you think having your oligarchs “under control” and throwing them out of the window is so much better?
That depends on what the goal is. Personally I think the independence of the western elite is what brought us the industrial revolution. However, if we take democratic values serious then the elite shouldn’t stand above the law or the politicians. Then it’s Feudalism in fancy clothes.
So if a party has the last word then it’s closer to a democracy than a capitalistic oligarchy where elections are bought. But it’s also no full democracy if a party or an inner circle holds the power for the people. The capitalistic elite could have the same noble goals behind their luxeries.
The US has been influencing German elections for a long time, as far as the rumors go. So making a fuss about them influencing the EU now can’t lead to serious investigations.
I think it’s useless to choose between wrong options. We have to create a system first where the population can’t be easily manipulated. Then no group can claim to be responsible for protecting society from itself and society can be a full democracy.
A publisher very well-connected with right-wing politics and brain-washing the majority of people with their massive market share on a daily basis giving an democracy award to a known anti-democrat in bright daylight now is not a valid argument for western democracy being a failure? They don’t even try to hide the oligarchs pulling strings in the background to enact policies against the population anymore and just hope that loud, shrill screaming at minorities will be sufficient as a diversion.
If this price is not issued by the state, then I don’t see a “problem in democracy”. Infantinos peace price was also ridiculous, but should we put him in jail for it?¹ The same accounts for Axel Springer - believe me, I hate them with every cell in my body, but I can’t prevent them from issuing fantasy prices and giving them out to the people they want. And I don’t want to live in a society where this is possible. This is the downside of a democracy, things you need to bear and live with. Which does not mean we do not need take Axel Springer to the courts for all the other evil things they did which were against the law.
¹of course we need to put him in jail, but not for the peace price
