Fucking bullshit, they want like multiple hundreds of dollars for this shit regardless of your insurance or healthcare situation?
They don’t cost that much. It’s about $5 for a month’s supply. The price is that high because it can be, as that is the natural result of capitalism that has absolutely no popular movement to counter it. It costs someone in the UK, for instance, £10 a month..
huh i can think of some uk comrades who could benefit a lot from a little arbitrage and fraud
it’s “reconstituting gray market chinese peptides at home” time i’m afraid
I genuinely can’t think of a more terrifying and anxiety inducing concept than having to go through all of the safety checks myself in order to reconstitute and inject dubious chemicals into my body.
I do it twice a week, it’s very cheap and very awesome
乁[ ◕ ᴥ ◕ ]ㄏ hormone enjoyers DIY all the time!
This is also terrifying to me. I have a very bad needle/blood phobia. Idk if I’m a hormone enjoyer but I definitely require them because my body doesn’t make them. I’ve been hoarding transdermal patches instead.
Mmm I see. I wonder if it’s possible to do DIY oral route? Would take more raw material because the dosage needs to be higher but should still be pretty cheap I think
insufficient piracy
I read something about how they might have prospective anti aging properties (due to widespread anti inflammatory effects), i feel like it’s a combination of “let’s make as much money as we can fleecing people” and malthusian “what, if we let the Poors have it, they’ll just grow in number” type bullshit, if there’s any intention beyond the profit part (which itself is a sufficient explanation imo)
I have ME/CFS and fibromyalgia, so the anti-inflammatory effects are exactly what I need but neither private insurance nor Canadian Medicare will cover the drugs for this diagnosis even though duloxetine didn’t help me at all.
Preventive care is just not prioritized anywhere. You can get coverage for type 2 diabetes but not prediabetes, you have to get sicker before we’ll give you the cure! Coverage for reducing cardiovascular risk once you have a heart attack, but not before you have it.
I hate so much about the medical system lmao
I’m sorry, it’s fucked even Canada won’t pay for stuff that’s clearly medically necessary. Shit sucks everywhere
It’s wild how insurance companies and random unaccountable bureaucrats get to practice medicine without a license.
Oh no for real it makes me insanely angry. I keep thinking about it when i think about the physical therapy referral i uh still put off (it’s hard to tell if I need it if it’s getting better after correcting my sleeping situation? ugh im conditioned to “wait and see” vs spending money!) because it’s apparently a general thing for insurance companies to require 4-6 weeks of physical therapy (sounds expensive!) before they’ll pay for an xray or other kind of imaging
Idk that might even be the smart thing to do since i guess PTs can diagnose if something’s wrong with how my arm/shoulder move/ etc. But it still feels wrong to have that requirement given by the insurance company. My jackass opinion is i want someone to look inside me to make sure there isn’t some fucked up long term issue with my cervical spine (since i had an explicit disc-slipping feeling a while ago, i definitely want to know if that caused long term injury) and either way it should be a doctor explicitly making the decision on which way to proceed
I have fibro/cfs issues like you , @EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net and dealing with glp-1 craziness, but I’ve also had to do a ton of physical therapy, @LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net, on a variety of insurances including too much none 😅. It’s crazy the difference in care between them…
I share y’all’s pain, it’s so frustrating navigating these minefields, fuck.
(Side thought because I’m definitely not high: finding a good PT who actually understands kinetics and not just outcomes, was so amazingly helpful for me, someone who can really watch your movement and tell you what is happening. The PTs who only focused on outcomes at least helped but also significantly delayed proper care)
(Also also, I had no idea about the anti-inflammatory stuff about glp-1’s interesting… Will look in to that, thanks! )
Ask your doc to send your prescription to a local compounding pharmacy rather than getting the name brand stuff. Works the same at a tenth of the cost.
It’s absolutely not any cheaper. Regular pharmacy wants like $200 for the name brand drug but the cheapest compounding pharmacy wants $480. It was cheaper when GLP meds first became available a few years ago, but this is not helpful advice anymore.
Oh, I’m getting semaglutide. Maybe that’s the price difference.
Oh man, I’m sorry. I’m only paying $70 out of pocket (not going through insurance).
Damn, that would be a lot better for tirzepatide. I think rn my only hope is getting into a drug trial for another combo GLP-1/GIP drug.
Not condoning this, but I got some grey market stuff from china that passed a 3rd party test. Think it was like $250 for a 9 month supply.
Never ended up using it, but plenty of others have
Damn, I’m paying like $350 a month – $150 for a membership for “access” and another $200 for the compounded semaglutide. Fuck this system.
I can tell you that if you stick to tirzepatide, based on the testing results I’ve seen in the grey market, the risk of buying and using grey market are very low.
https://www.stairwaytogray.com/
You shouldn’t have to spend more than 15$ a month.
This doesn’t seem like a good option for me at this time, the upfront costs look pretty high. :(
Everything is worth what someone is willing to pay.
This is precisely the sort of gibberish you start to utter when you allow yourseof to conflate cost and value.
Enlighten me then, whats the “value” of life saving medicine?
Why do you think the answer to your question isn’t “extortion”?
I’m going along with what you’re saying. Do you want to talk cost or value? Tell me either, the cost of life saving medicine or the value.
As I to you. Because that’s all your “value” can measure and compare; degrees of extortion. Cost is a better word for it because it’s less dishonest, and less malleable to peverse rationalizations. We can also talk about utility, and benefit, which is likely closer to what you wanted me to answer about but, unless you’re particularly keen to subvert semantics and syntax, little can be accomplished by using inadequate terminology to formulate questions.
You said I was conflating cost and value, that was your accusation. So tell me how they are different. What is the cost vs value of life saving medication, and how did my comments inform a conflation? If you answer those simple questions to clarify your statements, we can continue with a conversation.
You’re using the word value in place of cost. What you gain from doing so is the ability to babble yourself, and others, into believing nonsense. That’s really all there is to it. If you can’t gather the information you seek from the answer I already gave, then you’re not mentally read6 for this convo, and that’s fine, but please withdraw from my inbox at this time.
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You do know these meds are for more than weight loss right?
I very specifically am seeking a glp/gip med for anti-inflammatory reasons, since I have fibromyalgia/CFS. It’s amazing how people think it’s just a drug for people who wanna lose 5 kg.
People can be really shitty
Like type 2 diabetes? which a plant based diet can also bring into remission?
Like a very long list of conditions
