Reddit seems to have me blacklisted for so many of the popular subreddits, so I know the question won’t get posted.
Sadly I already know the response; they’d rather infinite genocides on the global South (keywords here ‘global South’) than let Trump get away with the Epstein files. I’ve seen libs openly admit they don’t see the point in sharing support away from Ukraine to countries in Africa, and admit that because this global South country or that isn’t a democracy that they don’t really care what happens to people there.
I also know that frankly they didn’t come to that conclusion on their own; the media and politicians are to blame for constantly justifying crimes over and over again against non-democratic countries for why libs think like this. They turn on the news, they listen to politicians, and it’s always the same; constant justification for crimes against the people of non-democratic countries.


This has been my exact experience. I’ve completely given up with them, it’s pointless. Best case scenario we just argue about some dumb bullshit. Really it just comes down to fundamentally different ways of viewing the world. There is no common ground. Believe me, I have tried hard to discuss with them in good faith and they are almost always just smug, dismissive, and condescending. As you correctly point out they are no different from MAGA: Thinking everything that goes against what they think is somehow a Russian disinformation campaign is deeply conspiratorial and no different from the illuminati Alex Jones weirdos.
Remember, the “news” that they pay attention to keeps them constantly in the present. To them history and geopolitics might as well not exist and isn’t relevant to what’s happening today. World events are just a series of people walking into rooms and saying/doing things based on their ideas and beliefs.
Peep this thread, you might find it soothing.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: