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  • $500 million bribe from the Abu Dhabi Royal Family to Trump uncovered.

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  • The only thing pathetic at this point is that all Americans aren't going full hostile takeover.

    I am an American. I know the frustration of people that care. So this isn't directed at your comment specifically. I feel and understand your frustration and doomerism in "nothing will happen". But, nothing will happen because YOU and I aren't doing anything.

    We're seeing a massive opportunity right now for people that don't usually pay attention to actually pay attention. I've been at this for awhile. I had the same feeling before.

    But right now the "wine mom's" are talking about a need for reconstructing our entire system.

    We are far far behind in the organization that we need to enact real change. The flame of frustration is AHEAD of the actual organized efforts. Many are just sitting in wait.

    You (anyone reading this) and I. We can't sit in wait. We are the ones that should have been prepared for this opportunity.

    If you're not going to a meeting (in person) in your community to organize against ICE or work for resistance, well, you need to. DSA, PSL, your local immigrant rights organizations, etc. You need to get connected NOW.

    If all you do is donate some whistles or give a ride to someone that needed it. YOU did something! Do one thing and start there.

    Individual attitude is keeping leftist in wait. Our collective minimal effort is much more powerful than anything else. And that minimal effort is addicting. It's will bring you to even more. It's everything you've been looking for that has been missing. There is no better mental health therapy than the feeling of solidarity.

  • Two CBP Agents Identified in Alex Pretti Shooting

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  • Abolish ICE? Not good enough. Punish ICE

  • Which are you?

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  • Exactly. How am I supposed to stick out one foot from the blanket when I'm too hot if that foot already has its own dedicated blanket on it?

    Also, sleeping bags are the work of the devil.

  • Anti-ICE protest draws massive crowd at South Portland facility, feds deploy tear gas

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  • Bring a leaf blower

  • You've been warned

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  • It's just garbage meant to get attention.

  • Support Fediverse Thought Police

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  • You're right. I didn't hear them condom hummus once! Not once!

  • Hasan Piker banned from Twitch for calling ICE supporters "rabid ultra-Zionist pigs'

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  • Holy shit. It's exhausting trying to talk to someone that just refuses to actually explain their opinion beyond the vague criticisms they started with. Like, I can't ask why you think those things? That's literally all I'm trying to get out of you and you refuse. If you didn't want to do that then don't reply. My initial point still stands. No substance. You've literally spent the last few comments avoiding giving any reason or example for why you have these criticisms in the first place.

    Why? Why is that so hard to do?

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  • You haven't gotten anywhere. Here, let me make this clear. I'll use an extreme example.

    During a debate I could say "you're using a Strawman argument". If I simply state that as a reason for why the person I'm talking to is wrong and do nothing else but just state a falacy they supposedly made and declare victory then I'm the idiot. I haven't actually discussed anything. It may "look smart" to someone that just wants to watch someone they already agree with. But I'm not. I'm just stating a conclusion without going through the steps to actually declare it.

    People that actually want to have a discussion of debate don't do this. They are aware of fallacies or bad faith arguments. But they don't just "declare" them. Actually, I'd say no intelligent or good faith person does that. That's internet debate slop.

    That's essentially what you are doing though. You made some vague criticism about his use of morality. But didn't actually bring any evidence or examples.

    All I can say is "huh, I guess you believe that". Like, what am I supposed to say? Are you just use to people that jump to disagree with you based on your vague criticisms? I have no idea. Maybe I would even agree with you. Why would I rebut to something you haven't even explained.

    You have no substance because you are just stating your conclusion. If you can't actually build that conclusion why would you expect me to engage?

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  • There is nothing of substance to address in what you said. You can say

    preloading moral conclusions, reframing opponents into caricatures, and using moral condemnation instead of engaging the actual claim

    But you have to actually provide an example of what you are talking about. Otherwise you're literally just spitting out word salad. I'm not going to pretend you're actually critizing someone when you speak like that.

    I'm supposed to infer your use of "debate" being loosely defined. But now you spit out another criticism without any examples and I'm supposed to "address the substance"?

    It's Jello. There is no substance.

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  • You don't even understand what they are discussing in the clip you linked to. I can't believe I am am typing out this response to someone that doesn't even understand what they linked. But fuck it...

    What is being discussed is why Ben Shapiro was put in F tier in the thumbnail even though he wasn't on the tier list in the actual video. The obvious answer to me (if I'm not trying to label all criticisms of Jewish people being because the critic is antisemitic) is: Ben Shapiro was a popular figure at that time and putting him in the thumbnail was for click bait. He was also a supporter/denier of the Palestinian genocide.

    So, your "obvious answer" doesn't even make sense.

    You're picking a part of a longer discussion on the topic and not even understanding what is being discussed.

    You picked the exact moment where Ethan gives up arguing about the actual tier list. (An Iranian women is literally sitting on the same tier as him btw. Do you think that's because the panel was bigoted against her?)

    He pivots to talking about the thumbnail because he's losing the argument on the tier list. And then starts saying the appearance of a famous right wing commentor in the thumbnail is because he's Jewish and therefore they hate Jews.

    It's such a bad faith argument. He's literally treating Ben Shapiro like his only identity is "Jew" and there is no other reason to maybe put him in a thumbnail.

    It's such a ridiculous point to pivot to. Hasan literally does the best thing he can do and just ignore it. "I don't know why". It's so far off from the topic. There is no reason to engage with it and keep following the chain of pivots.

    Hasan -> Hasan Moderator (Frogan) -> Frogan doing a video -> The unknown video editor that made the thumbnail for the video.

    Like, this is how far you gotta go? Sure, he could have gave an explanation like I did. But, then what? Ethan pivots again or just keep arguing it? Hasan isn't dancing around it. He's not allowing Ethan to control the conversation into something completely irrelevant like a click bait thumbnail.

    There. I wasted my time explaining something that you could have gotten from actually watching the video you linked.

    Jewish people can be criticized and their Jewish identity be irrelevant. Ben Shapiro and Ethan Klein are both racist genocide supporters. Why would I or anyone else hate them for being Jewish? I hate them because they supported a genocide.

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  • You criticized someone for "not using actual logic" and then followed it up with a Zionist crying about racism while he defends a genocide.

    You really want to engage in the facts of this with that as your backing?

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  • China is flexing on the US with cheap electric cars, high speed rail, and literal cyberpunk looking cities they built in a decade. I want that shit here. I'll Stan China until the SS troops stop door knocking and we get some public transit and healthcare.

  • We Want Collapse

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  • That's a relief

  • We Want Collapse

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  • It's not my job to educate you.

  • Hasan Piker banned from Twitch for calling ICE supporters "rabid ultra-Zionist pigs'

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  • My dude. You're using the genocide supporting Zionist podcaster as your means to criticize Hasan? Might want to just rethink how you even got here. I'm not wasting my time talking about fucking Sabra Hummus.

  • We Want Collapse

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  • I don't know how to make a reply to this that doesn't sound extremely condescending. I'll just assume you don't understand what I'm even talking about.

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  • I can literally tell you don't watch Hasan because you said "Hasan debates". He literally never does debates. You're talking about something that happens maybe once a year.

    Like, none of what you are saying here is at all resembling of his content either. It sounds like your only experience with his content is via watching someone else criticize him in a YouTube video.

  • We Want Collapse

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  • You're basically asking capitalism and western imperialism to stay confined to the imperial core. Its literally not possible what you're asking.

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  • There was a massive pro Zionist campaign in the year after the start of the Palestinian genocide. Tons of Zionist funded accounts meant to bait and report anyone that spoke out against the genocide. A lot of pro Palestine people ended up on Lemmy for this very reason though. Which is a nice plus.