vdbm

In the Netherlands, where Kaag is either much admired and quite untouchable (by those in the center) or hated (by those on the right), it definitely is a minefield. I don't want to express me about that (as I am not from that country). I think in this particular instance which has little to do with the Netherlands, she is throwing her reputation to grabs for a highly contentious initiative. De facto her boss is now Trump (as chairman of that initiative). So far she has not commented, which is also a bit odd.

What concerns me is that with all these letters, statements and actions (and with America 250 coming up), it is becoming very difficult to imagine that he would back down. The situation is dire.

There is unfortunately. 60 countries were invited. Two (Vietnam and Hungary) have accepted. At least two others (Canada and Italy) are considering it.

Still perplexed. It could be a career ruining move. What does this community think her political motivations might have been (I exclude economic/financial reasons, given her history)?

It is the first time that the US targets a select number of EU countries, rather than the EU as a whole. This makes it highly vulnerable to court challenges and at the WTO, unless there is a declared national security emergency because of a direct threat from those target countries (of course beyond a post on TruthSocial).

I come to this from an Italian perspective, where the EU is very much seen as a given, not something that needs to be continually construed. This leads to a certain passivity and lack of "propositivity", which we can all witness. Italy has become a follower on EU matters. This is also manifest in national political and media discussions on everything EU-related: there is some discussion on what the EU should do, but hardly any on what Italian leaders can and should do to make that happen.

Bert Hubert took time to answer substantially to Miguel De Bruyker.

https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/ft-on-european-cloud/

I have seen it pointed out that some of these 66 agencies are really platforms, treaties and commissions, not organisations. Is there an analysis of this?

I posted it to make people aware of the European dimension to this decision, which is sofar not mentioned by policy makers or media. Perhaps someone reads it and will take it up in a discourse outside Lemmy.

When I arrived at the man from a small nation like Austria, I realised you were sarcastic. Well done.

Believe what exactly?

I posted it to understand how it was affecting the rest of the world, and Europe in particular, not to make a reflection on wider US policy. So far I haven't heard reactions from the UN, from the EU, from the governments of EU member states, or from the mayors of the cities that host these organisations.

That's a bit of a polemic comment. Nothing of this will happen. We are talking about 66 small organisations all over the world.

I know, but my intention was not to have a debate on Stephen Miller (on which I have much to say but this is not the forum), but on the implications in Europe for this Europe-based international organisations. Nobody has written about this so far.

Is there any discussion (anywhere!) on what this might imply for these Europe-based international organisations (funding, staffing, projects)?

Many of these organisations, also funded by the EU or EU member states (17 are EU-based), are now suddenly in serious financial disarray. I doubt that the EU will react and these organisations are too small and too institutional to react much themselves. I know a couple of them (besides the IPCC, which we all know) and can confirm that they do great work.

So it is a hopeless case?

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