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squaresinger

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  • OP is shocked that an import tax is not paid by the exporter

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  • If the model is high rebates at some times (e.g. an article costs €50 instead of €100 for part of the time), then you do save money buying when it's at €50.

    But you have to remember that €50 is the price at which the seller would usually sell the product. That's the price that their price calculation says that it should be sold at. Otherwise they'd not be making profit.

    So the alternative model is to always sell the article at €50.

    Or to put it differently: The seller does the price calculation and comes up with €50 being the price where they would need to sell it to make profit and the price that the customers would still buy it at. It's the optimal price, and the price they should be going with.

    Instead, they sell it for €100, so they can discount it to €50 and put a big "-50%" sticker onto it. Hardly anyone who has the choice buys at €100, everyone waits for the sale, when it's put to €50. And then more people buy, because they think they have made a massive deal, because they have gotten a €100 item for only €50. They are going to tell all their friends about it, it might even make it into news articles or stuff like that, and then more people buy.

    The other option, which is illegal in some countries but legal in others, is to just fake the "full" price all together. The product is always offered at €50, but the sticker says "€100 -50% super sale!"

    You can see stuff like that on Aliexpress. Pick some article that has a 50% rebate during some sales holiday (e.g. Black Friday). Then look at the article a week later, and in almost all cases the non-rebated price next week will be the same as the rebated price during Black Friday.

    People just love being lied to. It's really sad.

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • I have a Wii U too, but I got that thing for €60 back then.

    If I would be getting into that right now, I'd just load up CEMU (or other emulators) onto my living room PC. That one also works with Wiimotes and other Bluetooth controllers. It also nicely plays PS1 and PS2 games (haven't tried anything newer yet). Setting up these emulators was super easy so far.

    On the Wii U I don't have to fuss with emulators, but instead I have to hack the console and fuss with whatever's the current homebrew solution. (Btw, I should really update some time. I'm sure I am way outdated by now.)

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • (for whatever reason)

    That's exactly what I want to know :)

    I mean, for people who can't or don't want to afford original hardware, there's more than enough options out there, so I'm not questioning why someone sells these things for those prices. I'd just like to know why someone pays that much.

  • OP is shocked that an import tax is not paid by the exporter

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  • That's a really big issue, tbh. People don't get how prices work. You see the same with promotions/sales. A lot of shops/companies will often put their products on sale for 25%, 50% or even more off. And people think they will actually save that amount of money. Instead of realizing that in most cases the sales price is the regular price, and the regular price is inflated by the sales price amount so that if the product is sold the seller still makes the same margins.

    In a former job the company started expanding to Asia, and we got a sales guy from Singapore to represent us in Asia. He said that if we aren't selling with at least 60% rebate, we have no chance of selling stuff in Asia. So we created a new price list for Asia with all the prices tripled.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • The cheapest way for a quality emulation experience is probably a phone with a portrait-mode game controller attachment.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • What do I care if you dropped a DS in a toilet?

    Stop posting while drunk. You are obviously not smart enough to make sense while drunk.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • Stop posting while drunk.

    I guarantee you that I’ll never attempt to fix any of this N e-waste ever again anyways.

    Who cares? Nobody forces you, if you don't want to, don't do it.

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • Phone attached controller might be cheaper, but surely you can see that its a significantly worse experience than a properly built console?

    I do have some of my old consoles still, specifically a Gameboy Color and a New 3DS XL. I also have a Razr Kishi v2 smartphone controller.

    The Kishi+phone easily beats the original GBC in every metric except of nostalgia. When it comes to the 3DS, it's slightly more mixed, since I can't use the Kishi in portrait mode, so emulating both screens on top of each other is difficult.

    I did try another controller in vertical mode (can't remember what it was called, a friend of mine let me try it) and there the experience was actually better on the emulator than on the real device, except of the missing 3D graphics. But other than that, performance was better on the emulator (especially Pokemon games struggle on OG hardware), the screen was much better.

    Might be a bit more mixed for games that require precise touch input, but none of the games I played actually need that.

    Especially now that online play has been discontinued on the 3DS, emulators aren't that far behind.

    And the biggest advantage: saving a few hundred Euros for the controller compared to the original hardware.

    But that's of course only my view, and that's why I was asking for other people's experiences, because I want to understandtand their reasoning.

    In terms of second hand consoles, yes, no warranty, but, it’s still not messing around with emulators, it should play the games largely as expected.

    Ease of use? Yeah, I guess that's fair, especially if you aren't hacked. Once you hack the console, it's just as much hassle as dialing in an emulator...

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • Sorry, that was a bit of a misunderstanding. A MISTer makes sense to me. I was talking about newer original retro consoles. Something like a DS/3DS, PSP, Wii, Wii U, PS3. These things are now often more expensive in mediocre second-hand condition than they were new back when they were new, and that's what I don't really understand.

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • Depends on the handheld, but most of the older handhelds have easily replaceable batteries.

  • Who buys crazy expensive "new retro" consoles and why?

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  • Buying a complete product means you don’t have to mess around with emulators not working quite right, and if it doesn’t work, you can just return it.

    Can you return second-hand consoles?

    Expensive is relative to income. 300eur is not much money for some. Also, 300eur is cheaper than a steam deck…

    True, but I mostly meant relative to other devices you could use instead. The cheapest option would probably to get a phone-attachment controller for maybe €50-100 and connect that to the phone you already have.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • Stop posting while drunk.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • I didn't say anything about toilets. In fact, I have never seen anyone drop handheld consoles into toilets. Is that something you do?

    Please stop posting while drunk. Makes you look really dumb.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • Are you drunk?

    I did post all versions.

    If you are drunk, don't post online. It makes you look like a fool.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • The (New) 3DS XL has quite nice haptics, and emulating the dual-screen setup is a little awkward especially handheld.

    Apart from that I agree with you.

    It was worth getting a second-hand New 3DS XL for €100 a few years ago, but the prices people talk about here are just not worth it.

    Same holds true for old Gameboys and similar tech.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • Also, if you have a hacked N3DS you can enable the overclocked speed in original 3DS games to make stuff like Pokemon games lag less. Going from 268MHz to 804MHz does make a difference.

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  • Dude, you asked for information and then you attack everyone who answers with knowledge you can find on wikipedia.

    What's wrong with you? If you don't want answers don't ask questions.

    If you ask a question and someone answers it, the proper response is "Thank you for the detailed answer", and not claiming that anyone who has knowledge you don't must be a drug addict.

    Get a grip, man.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • The main advantage I have seen with my kids in the 2DS over the 3DS is that the 2DS survives being shaken without issues. My kids tended to shake the consoles when they got angry that they lost a game. Try doing that with the 3DS and you are soon going to build a GBA Macro.

  • Bought a 3DS XL last year

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  • When my kid was young, the 2DS was perfect because it would survive being shaken without issues. Try shaking a 3DS when the screen is open.

    Who cares that they cost-optimized both screens into one? It was cheaper and more robust. It was perfect for smaller kids.