

I know TikTok poisoned people are a bit out there but this case awoke some deep slumbering demons in these people, my feed was fucking wild the past week or so.


I know TikTok poisoned people are a bit out there but this case awoke some deep slumbering demons in these people, my feed was fucking wild the past week or so.


The frontend is ass but under the hood it’s still the same old Windows. Microsoft’s unwillingness to make major changes under the hood keeps it usable for the most part once you disable all the spyware and bloatware (or as much as you can anyway).
Obviously you shouldn’t be using it at all if you can afford to and are knowledgeable enough.
Well the USSRs economy was turning to shit during the 80s, that leaves plenty of room for theft/drugs/domestic violence etc…


It’s literally just Arch with a bunch of preinstalled bullshit not sure what the hype is about.


But just by the way you ask the question, seems to me like you are on a personal journey that won’t feel satisfied until you’ve basically transformed yourself and the way you think about the world.
Didn’t expect to be clocked like that lmao but yeah kind of I guess. Thanks for your input the answers in this thread definitely clarified some stuff at least a little bit.


Then only they will be able to afford a platform that hosts local models because the rules make it impossible for anyone else to host these models.
That just means the models will be on torrent trackers, the infrastructure is already there.


That actually made a lot of sense, thanks. Didn’t cross my mind to frame this kind of stuff as responses to trauma but it makes a lot of sense to frame it that way.


Yeah I guess “choose” was the wrong word here, I understand this didn’t happen in a planned and intentional manner, what I’m asking is why didn’t they cool the frog rather than boil it, why did so many civilizations drift into hierarchy and class and not the other way around? Conceivably rather than drifting slowly into class society they could have continued nurturing a more egalitarian form of being.


As this social capital concentrated within a group, the informal divisions hardened into castes, called Gentes. There was still respect and fraternity among the members of the Gens, but Gentes are now starting to act according to their own best interests. The egalitarianism still exists informally, but its more like a principle or value than a need in order for each little Gen society to function. Cultural momentum, not a necessity for survival.
Yeah I guess the core of my question is exactly what makes this kind of process tick. How come the cultural momentum swung in that particular direction rather than the other.


which gradually transformed into social leverage and an actual class, state, and more.
Yeah this is my question I guess, why exactly did this social leverage appear? Conceivably they all could have collectively chosen not to form social classes but rather distribute what they had more equitably however little that surplus was, why was it absolutely materially necessary for slaves to exist in those times for example? Couldn’t the same labor be performed by free people?


Well it is just 1% it hardly indicates a trend yet but I’m hoping it does actually indicate one. The biggest economy in the world managing to turn around their CO2 emissions trend for good would be huge.


Every old time software dev knows that sometimes you have to resist management and go do the thing that makes the software actually work
Yeah but the management nearly always wins in the end and makes you do the quick and dirty solution. The amount of decades old absolute ass legacy code I’ve had to deal with in my early professional days was insane and the same code is probably still clanking on. It’s always easier for management to get results quickly and then pay the price in man hours and misery of the devs later.


It’s less accurate than copy/pasting shit off Stack Overflow, the thing we used to say was the sign of a bad programmer. Everyone using it is miserable, and nobody using it has actually delivered the results they keep saying they’re getting (it’s been 6 months since you all said you’re 100x more effective, where’s the 50 years worth of new software, AI bros?)
I dunno that wasn’t my experience in the last 6 months or so. 2 years ago yeah it was basically this but nowadays I can get the thing to do some medium complexity work on our codebase and it’s pretty much gonna get it right like 95% of the time with maybe some tiny code quality reduction in the form of some duplicated code or such but the thing is pretty much going to work.
Also I built a personal project with it that I wanted to do for a while but never got around to it and it pretty much did it as I wanted it. Granted it was a lot of back and forth and lots of debugging/testing passes but in the end it actually works. Not sure what the overall code quality is but the overall project structure makes sense and the little code I did look seemed solid enough.


Sometimes it can write good code, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes it summarizes some info for you well, sometimes it makes shit up. It’s a mixed bag overall, probably not worth the hype and the resources but here we are anyway.


How do you know you’re not just generating the next token and appending it to your input? 
Nah just kidding I kinda tend to agree because techbros are already starting to speak about LLMs like they’re actual conscious beings and it’s getting super weird but saying stuff like “the text predictor that is used as a simulacrum of human reasoning is deficient in such and such ways” is kind of a mouthful and also most non-technical people are gonna stare through you if you talk to them like that.


The reason I disagree with this analogy is that the new tooling is fundamentally incompatible with software freedom that cannot be solved with gcc et al. I can’t afford a $10k computer to run local models.
That’s actually a good point but if we consider history the barrier to entry to software engineering was huge 40-50 years ago, not many people could afford to do it locally. Then again it’s different because software as a whole wasn’t really that important 50 years ago.
Then again “software freedom” as we know it may just as well be a coincidental transient phenomenon because capitalist markets arranged themselves in such a way to make the hardware and software required to build and maintain software accessible enough to the general public, that “right” can conceivably be taken away by the same system again, there is no reason to assume it’s here to stay.
Honestly I’m just rambling at this point I have no idea where any of this leads I’m pretty much hoping the whole thing is gonna be a dud and we’ll return to the same old way of doing things, capitalism is a fuck, death to america.


The problem is LLMs always sound very confident when “fixing” things and will very rarely report that it’s out of its depth and refuse to work, and yeah sometimes they genuinely just do good but also unless you’re really vigilant it’s easily possible it’s gonna introduce more bugs than it fixed.
I’m not saying Torvalds is stupid enough to just uncritically let this thing loose on the kernel but I understand the trepidation of open source maintainers about this stuff.


Morphine exists and has uses but that doesn’t mean Marxists should use it uncritically or regard its applications in arresting boredom through the same lens as its applications in treating people with physical trauma.
Yeah, you also shouldn’t turn on your stove and put your face on it but should rather use it to cook food, I feel like this kind of stuff goes without saying. I’m not sure who you’re arguing with here, I don’t think many people on this site would say AI use is always completely neutral and harmless, when people say it’s “just a tool” they mean that it’s not ontologically evil as some people like to portray not that it’s entirely harmless and outside of political consideration, I think we’re just arguing semantics here.


she’s saying using the technology will change the person using it, software and software culture, and the motivation of people. For the worse, given the nature of them.
Did the invention of agriculture change human civilization for the worse because it lead to the establishment of class society? I don’t know, maybe? Thing is it happened and it’s not going away, same as AI (well maybe AI is a bubble and it is going away who the hell knows at this point). Moralizing about this kind of stuff is not something Marxists should do, it’s part of the progression of history whether we find it personally appealing or not, the point is to struggle to steer it into a positive outcome.
Why is it mad at me?