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lemonmelon

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  • Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory

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  • FPTP plus winner-take-all. WTA needs to go away at the same time FPTP does.

  • Drop your most "wtf that's not how the world works" from movies/tv shows.

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  • I don't think water hammer would apply because there's no abrupt cutoff or change in direction of the flow.

  • What's the strangest insult that you have ever received/given?

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  • Damn, did I touch a nerve?

  • Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory

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  • So you're ditching one fussy infant for another?

  • Trump’s ready to declare victory on Tuesday — no matter the results

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  • Yup! Spirare is the Latin root of a lot of words, most likely due to how pneuma was believed to be the human soul. Breath and soul were one and the same, so it shows up in a lot of places.

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  • Having some sort of mechanism that requires attention to be paid to areas other than high-population centers is probably a good thing. In the system we have now, it swings too far in the other direction by giving some disproportionate power to small pop red states and even more to battleground states. A shift away from WTA, along with replacing FPTP with STAR voting, would be more impactful than abolishing the EC. Even better would be adjusting the size of the House to better normalize the population of districts.

    There have been hundreds of attempts to abolish or change the EC. It's really looking like our best options for real reform are STAR voting and proportional representation.

  • "No, I'm not doing nothing I'm raising awareness!"

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  • You have an equal chance as de la Cruz to be elected president this year as well.

  • "No, I'm not doing nothing I'm raising awareness!"

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  • All you do by "making them lose" is make shit worse for everyone who isn't a full-blown right-wing religious nutter.

    Voting for the blue circle helps ensure that you can ever have a choice again. Voting for anything else if you're left of the blue circle provides succor to would-be tyrants.

    And that's on you. That's your failure of logic helping to pave the way for an even harder shift to the right.

    What's the term for someone who helps fascists get their way?

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  • I'll point back to you saying this:

    the electoral college picks presidents for us like kings

    Which is, for lack of a better way to put it, simply bullshit.

    I'll also point to you saying this:

    I don't care how the system works to vote for president.

    Which sounds like willful ignorance about the election process. I don't think that's a position to be proud of.

    You ask why we even have electors at all, as if that's some sort of big "gotcha" monent. I already clearly stated that I don't think it's a particularly good system, especially coupled with FPTP and winner-talke-all. What it is, though, is the system we have, so understanding it is pretty vital.

    Technically speaking, no, you do not directly vote for a presidential candidate in the general election. In practice, your vote almost certainly will be represented by the electors you vote for if your chosen candidate wins your state or if you live in Nebraska or Maine. Certainly, the electors could be removed entirely from the process while electoral votes remain. That would remove one unnecessary part of the equation, but would it solve anything?

    Here's the real fun: winner-take-all. It's more damaging than indirect election. Let's pretend you live in one of three districts that vote for (electors pledged to) Alice, one in a landslide and two hotly contested. But the other two districts in your state elect (electors pledged to) Bob. The statewide popular vote is close but slightly in favor of Bob. Congrats, all seven of your states EC votes go to Bob even though your district overwhelmingly supported Alice, and she won 60% of the districts. Who needs faithless electors when your vote can truly not count for anything? This is how WTA is worse for democracy than electors.

  • "No, I'm not doing nothing I'm raising awareness!"

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  • The confusion is that you, and others who are spouting off the same nonsense, really seem hellbent on ignoring that you're getting one of them as your next president if you are a citizen of the US.

    "I'm not voting for either" gets you nowhere. Worse, it withholds a vote from a candidate who isn't a full-blown, mask-off, dangerous fascist.

    This is the compass you have to work with:

    I presume you want to be somewhere around here:

    Or even here:

    But you can't get there from where we are right now, and you sure as hell can't do it if you end up with the red circle.

    The closest you can get to what you want in this election is the blue circle. So the logical thing to do in this election is to hold your nose, get over your "moral authority", and vote for the one viable option that is even remotely close to your ideal candidate.

    Voting third party in FPTP doesn't benefit any candidate except the viable candidate least aligned with your ideal. You are contributing to a possible Trump victory by refusing to vote for the only other candidate that can win this election.

    Everyone I've encountered who regurgitates the "Harris isn't acceptable" line of thinking falls back to "voting for Harris makes you complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza" but refuses to acknowledge that, if we apply the same logic, voting for a non-viable candidate makes you complicit in the same genocide, along with every other shit thing that will happen in a second, more disastrous Trump term.

    "I didn't vote for him though," carries no water, because if you lean left of Harris and vote third party in this election you've taken support from the only viable candidate and in doing so made the shift towards fascism easier to enact.

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  • It's not a matter of opinion. You're misrepresenting how the EC works.

    It isn't a good system, but it's also nothing like you characterized it.

    Slates of electors are chosen to represent parties by the parties themselves, often in party conventions or primaries, and typically from a pool of people who are incredibly loyal to the party. That is even more true of smaller parties, as they tend to be more invested in their particular beliefs than the major parties.

    Faithless electors are, so far, practically a non-factor in modern elections in the US. There are mechanisms in place in most cases that either invalidate their vote or outright remove and replace them. I can only cite one time in history that there was a significant impact, when the Virginia electors withheld their votes for Van Buren's VP Richard M. Johnson. He had to be elected by the Senate due to the 23 withheld votes keeping him from a majority in the EC. That was in 1836.

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  • Puncturing the skin has nothing to do with it. Human skin normally has high resistance, the palms and fingertips more so due to their skin being thicker and more likely to be calloused. Saline will always lower that resistance, though possibly not enough to allow for painful shocks across the width of your body from fingertip to fingertip. That's quite a lot of resistance to overcome. There's also the matter of the resistance provided by the terminals, but we'll handwave that.

    How often would you try to shock someone's palms in a torture situation? How often do you expect to see current routed from the left hand all the way over to the right hand? And how likely are you to use just the lead battery terminals? Generally, you'd administer the shock across a shorter span, minimizing the most resistive part of the circuit. Any area with thinner, more sensitive skin is likely to experience thermal discomfort from a high amperage current, especially with lowered resistance. Even at 12V, it wouldn't exactly be pleasant. The resistance is lowered even further by using thick copper cables, which are much more conductive than the lead terminals.

    The picana makes it all so much worse. Ohm's law tells us that current is equal to voltage divided by resistance. The rheostat in the picana allows the resistance in the circuit to be manipulated further at the turn of a dial. Cranking down the resistance means more current is applied, and that current is flowing through two copper conductors that are typically pretty close together. That means you have even less skin to serve as an insulator against the current, which ultimately results in more pain for the unlucky person being tortured.

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  • That fight between Piper and Keith David was amazing, though.

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  • They said the neighbors, not the police. I figure it means that consensual bondage time was interrupted, so they took matters into their own hands.

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  • Okay, neat. Fire a rifle with the stock held just in front of your floating ribs instead of welded to your shoulder and get back to us.

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  • This is completely ignoring amperage and lowered resistance via saline. An automotive battery with sufficient CCA applied to sweaty or salt-water-doused skin wouldn't be fun to be on the receiving end of. And if they're using a picana, which they often are, things are going to be even worse.

  • Trump files first election lawsuit in chilling sign of what’s to come

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  • Verbal diarrhea from Dysentery Donnie.

  • Trump files first election lawsuit in chilling sign of what’s to come

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  • "I stated a patently false thing that can be easily refuted as a fact, but you... YOU are being ridiculous!"

    That's you. That's what you sound like right now.

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  • No, the term "Nazi Party"refers to the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The term "Nazi" refers to an adherent to the ideology of Hitler Fascism. The NSDAP didn't typically refer to themselves with that term.

    There's also a square/rectangle situation in play: all Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are Nazis. In this case, though, he's more on the square side of the comparison. The biggest departures from the ideology are the inclusion of religion and the lack of Lebensraum (at least at home; there's an ironic argument to be made about how his belief that Bibi is moving too slowly in Gaza indicates that he has an eye towards creating living-space for certain groups at the expense of others).