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  • I think I understand where you are coming from. The undignified disposal of corpses is the least of the commited atrocities in in this facility. The infant mortality rate was 5 times the average of the time, the children were malnourished and abused. Take a look at the other sources.

    In this context mentioning SIDS comes across as an apology. If a non-denominational facility would murder and abuse children at this rate they'll also hide the corpses. The core issue isn't dignified burial but abuse and murder.

  • No, No, and No.

    I mildly criticise her for switching from one flawed main stream to another flawed main stream. You incorrecty mixed Sunni with various sects of islam. 85% of Muslims are Sunni, 48.1% of Christians are Catholic.

    My real issue is that both denominations are wildly incompatible with her choice of lifestyle so these choices are weird to me. They certainly did not help her mental health.

  • Ever since Trumps 1st term satire and sarcams have been slowly dying. Since then it's gotten so bad that now matter how outlandish your post/comment is - there is a maga cult member who'll top whatever you wrote and is completely serious about it.

    Yeah, I'm going to use /s every time.

  • They’re following a playbook that is about 100 years old though. This is nothing like Covid.

  • Sorry, I should have put the sources list at the bottom of my reply.

    First off you can't compare US mortality rates to Irish ones, especially if you can't apply it to the numbers.

    From the Wikipedia article on Tuam: Writing in a 2012 HSE report, Declan McKeown, a consultant public health physician and medical epidemiologist stated that the infant mortality rate in the home were "similar to those recorded at Bessborough" (another mother and baby home), which were five times the rate for Ireland in 1950 and 65 times the 2012 rate. McKeown stated that these rates were equivalent to the infant mortality rate in Ireland in the 1700s.

    That seems disturbingly high, don't you think?

    EDIT: Disturbingly high and a common occurence in these facilities in Ireland.

    Also check out at least that 1st Arte video. It is not long and features a couple of survivors.

    After consuming the sources below I have to say that the disposal of the bodies is IMHO the least atrocious thing that was committed.

    Sources:

  • Sorry, in the context of the many apologists in this thread still trying to smear the historian and to gloss over the atrocities and you bringing up SIDS I missed you intention.

    I still disagree with youur comment though. I think that is it less likely for an atheist organisation to commit the same atrocities and there being no known incidents of similar coverups. Still, any organization starving and mistreating children will try hide their crimes and their victims bodies regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof.

    In short: I agree with your intent but I disagree with how you worded it.

  • *pro-birther. If they were really pro life there'd be less school shootings, etc. pp.

  • Sinéad AKA Shuhada begs to differ

    "This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada’"

    — Shuhada’ Davitt (@MagdaDavitt77) AKA Sinéad O'Connor

    She left main stream catholicism before the SNL incident: "The 51-year-old was previously ordained a priest by a breakaway Catholic sect, the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the late 1990s" source: Irish Post

    She was a troubled being (who wouldn't be with her childhood?), so not all her decisions are relatable. Converting to main stream (Sunni) Islam still sticks out as weird.

  • The disease / pre-existing condions being "born out of wedlock" and "being in a catholic children camp".

    Since the excavations just happen now as survivors and the general public wont shut up about the atrocities, and ITT there are still plenty of apologist I'm not sure how thick the veneer of better is.

  • I can’t watch that 70s show anymore. It was my favorite tv show of all time.

    I used to love The Cosby Show. Unwatchable now even if they would still air it.

  • Not really abortion if it’s post-birth, is it? Once they’re born, if you kill them, that’s simply murder.

    which is exactly what they wrote:

    no this is post-birth abortion… aka murder….

  • This was my original comment: Get informed and stop being an apoligist

    I indeed misinterpreted the intention of the comment I replied to and leave this here so the comment chain still makes sense. However, I still disagree with the word choice especially with putting SIDS forward.

    Sources: