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  • You might need to hear that I don't have any issue with Sankara, or you. I have issues with the meme you shared being essentially fantasy.

    Did you even read that article you linked to? Because I have, many times since it was published in 2016. It only supports me, and makes zero mention of Sanakara.

    "This was a stupid way of restoring land in the Sahel," says Dennis Garrity, a senior research fellow at the World Agroforestry Centre.

    "If all the trees that had been planted in the Sahara since the early 1980s had survived, it would look like Amazonia," adds Chris Reij, a sustainable land management specialist and senior fellow at the World Resources Institutewho has been working in Africa since 1978. "Essentially 80 percent or more of planted trees have died."

    "We moved the vision of the Great Green Wall from one that was impractical to one that was practical," says Mohamed Bakarr...

    So even the other experts you found agree with me.

    Next, you don't even know what the meme says. From www.thomassankara.net

    He initiated a nation-wide literacy campaign, increasing the literacy rate from 13% in 1983 to 73% in 1987.

    That's the 60%. It's all over the internet. No math needed.

    Look, there's no reason to die on the hill of someone else's misrepresented meme text. That's someone else doing Sankara dirty, not you. There's no reason to double down without doing due diligence, it's just self-own after self-own. And no reason to resort to personal attacks.

  • For the claims in the meme? I don't have it, and most of it are just claims made with no evidence to support them. Other than he told people to plant trees and claimed to have planted millions, but wherever those trees are now, it's not in Burkina Faso.

  • “Many of his achievements were reversed by his successor who literally couped him, therefore, they never existed”

    ???

    Sadly, what I meant was that none of his achievements amounted to anything actual Burkinabae people experienced as genuine long-term beneficial changes. That nothing he did from this image lasted or was enough of a net good that even a week of some other guy couldn't undo it all.

    The environmental initiative was abandoned after his assassination

    Yeah, I've done a ton of desertification remediation projects, and this is not the flex you think it is. Primarily that desertification prevention projects are always nice ideas and fade after a couple years when you find out how well most interventions don't work. I've watched hundreds of people in the Sahel plant trees for big, well-funded events. Most die within a year or so because, as it turns out, small trees need water. Planting trees is not some new invention. OK, so he planted 10 million? They're trees - where are they? I've been to BF a few times, it looks just as much like a desert as Niamey, and it's bleak AF once you get north of Ouaga. Trees require years of labor to get to the point where trees take. He was probably just looking at issues with charcoal use and forestry issues and did the math. It's nice that he did this, but this isn't some mind-blowing unique thing. It's what every foreigner shows up and tries to do as well in the Sahel, like they're the first one to think of it. Even if 10% of the trees survived, you would think that 1 million trees would still be around, yes?

    “By 60%” not “to 60%”

    Had time to dig into this, and whew - this is simply not true. There's no source for the 73% literacy rate claim. Second, explain to me how people became UNliterate? BF's literacy rate is around 40%. Yet, the most literate group is children who had been in schools. Why are the adults, including the older adults running at 10% literacy rates when 73% of everyone was literate 30 years ago? We would see literacy rates that don't look like every other Sahelian country.

    Second, literacy is not learning the alphabet, and in the 70's and 80's, literacy was only the ability to reach French, an abomination of a language. Leftovers of the colonial past that the stats were only for French, and they included local languages later. If you think it's so easy, go learn to read french this week and tell me how that goes for you.

    What may have been misconstrued, IMO, is one of two things: It might have been teaching local language written in regular romance letters, which, again, is not literacy because there's really not anything to read in local languages. People sound out the things they read like signs, so it's sort of half way to anything. OR he included people who claimed to know Arabic from Koranic schools. I promise you, no one can read Arabic IRL, but it's an alphabet. You do occasionally out in the villages see people writing local language in Arabic, which is interesting. But it's not the same thing as literacy.

    “The country was a mess by its very formation; therefore, Sankara had no achievements”

    Not at all - it's that while he was violating human rights just a bit (very popular at the time) to hold the new country together, it left him distracted and fighting for internal power, rather than doing things that were longer-lasting. Meaning that you can't just think it was a magical utopia for a few years based on a meme. His achievements don't live on beyond memes that make it sound like Marxist African leaders had any sort of successes at all. No one needs to come by and tear them down, it al gets washed away because everything in the Sahel is hard on life and achievement. Nothing lasts. And Sankara is no exception.

  • Y'all ever been to Burkina Faso? None of this was true IRL, let alone after a week of Compaoré, and it's certainty phenomenonal levels of inaccurate out of context. Burkina Faso is just plain weird.

    The desertification is on par with everyone else in the neighborhood, and benefits from being south of the Niger river. "Literacy" rates are measured in French, so that 60% is riding on post-colonial olds. Literacy takes years of schooling, not enough time for measurable increases during the period he was in charge.

    Plus, he was subsumed by the mess that came from trying to smash the Upper/Lower Volta territories into each other and make the colonial nether region of Upper Volta into a standalone country. That he was taken out by his successor is very common in West Africa around that time. BF want some Paradise stolen by a dictator. It was a shitshow some idiot thought they could run better.

    Is the wack part how much BS this is?

  • Basically, yeah. That was my math as well. The irony was thick.

  • There better be a restaurant somewhere putting an egg on avocado toast and calling it that.

  • Did they prevent session hijacking yet?

    No? Still a major problem?

    Edit: Fucking 20 other problems with them also listed in this article. You kidding me?

    Then back to the sewer with you!

  • Avacado = Ah-vak-a-doooo

  • A Boomer family member that voted for this shitshow told me the other day I was right that my version of societal collapse, a slow crumbling as everything falls apart, was what was happening.

    I meant like over 30 years. I'd hate to know what they think a speedrun would look like

  • I agree with this. This is not something that normal families should try and fix. Donate to a food bank so people in need get the food. Then fucking vote these fucks out of office.

    Not everyone trick or treating needs hand outs. Not everyone in need is it trick or treating.

  • I, for one, recall the rousing success of Halloween's incursion deep into December territory in 1993. It was a spectacular glory! Proof that while the somber forces of Halloween don't seek conflict, they are not a force to be perturbed.

  • I 100% want to see a limited series of AI young Picard with hair doing total Kirk-style hooking up, phaser-killing, and elsewise buck wild shenanigans.

    Then cut back to old Picard saying how terrible it all was.

  • That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the most basic of math should be as basic as reading. Something that anyone can do themselves.

    Do you honestly think that for the rest of your life every moment will let a calculator or ChatGPT help you have every interaction you have? People are perfectly capable of basic math.

  • No, I'm here in good faith.

    Being alarmed, I suppose, would be the subjective assessment that this isn't too far off from all the cognitive decline correlated to excessive use of AI. It's an extrapolation, sure, but similar.

    It's lovely to think that a phone will always be right on us all, for the rest of our lives. IRL, shit happens. Sometimes people just dug a calf out of a pond, their phone got soaked, and they still need to divide 250 lbs of fertilizer by 10 barrels and not be seized by indecision because there's not a cell phone around.

  • OK, but do you mean the actual text is from a story where this text is the gibberish that summons Cthulu? Or that it's a translated piece of text from that story that is now in Welsh?

  • I genuinely can't tell of this is real Welsh or just gibberish with a random '

  • The issue is that the floor on confidence in knowledge is now basically nothing.

    Why is it that 8th graders in 1990 could do solid algebra and polynomials on paper and not need help? Nothing about the math has changed.

    Slide rules do not do basic math, that's a poor comparison. People that did higher math on slide rules only used it for part of the problem dealing with logarithms, and that was a shorthand for larger approximation tables in books. That's necessary help. Solving for 2+2 is not. That's for little children that count on their fingers. If you're not in the "WTF?" camp, you're part of the problem.

  • I saw that. It's fucking breathtaking, the apologists for stupidity.

    If I go start an account on a .ml instance and claim letters and numbers are colonial, patriarchal constructs and should be eliminated, I'll be the most popular poster until I accidentally make everyone illiterate out of spite.

  • You feel free to go first, buddy.