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  • My folks want to give ancestry.com a try what do I need to know?

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  • That's fair, it does appear that the church itself never owned Ancestry.com outright, so I concede I was wrong on that, however this article from the Harvard School of Divinity states that they did own it (see Mormons, Genetics, & Digitized Data:

    " In 2001, Mormon billionaire James Sorenson started one of the earliest genetic test kit companies, Relative Genetics, in part due to his religious interests.It was later bought by Ancestry.com, another Mormon company. While today, Ancestry is a publicly traded company, it uses LDS church records and the IGI. All LDS church members receive free memberships, and they can use their account to send relatives they find on Ancestry.com directly to the LDS church for a proxy baptism with the click of a button."

    While yet another article states : Is Ancestry.com owned by the Mormon Church?:

    "Since many of the digitized records on Ancestry.com can be accessed at FamilySearch, many people assume that the company Ancestry is owned by the LDS church. This is not the case! However, the two organizations have done massive amounts of collaborative work throughout the years. In fact, if you are an LDS member, you have free access to Ancestry’s World Edition. You can also obtain free access at different municipal libraries and other non-religious institutions.

    The company still to this day continues to grow, and though its past was highly influenced by people in the LDS church, the company has never been owned by the church itself.

    However, the company has truly been a pioneer in the online subscription business model. Today, Ancestry is considered a major technology company rather than a genealogical company. Though the company has done numerous amount of collaborations with the LDS church’s non-profit organization Familysearch.org, it has never been owned by the church itself."

    This article points out how Ancestry.com and FamilySearch are often confused (FamilySearch is in fact owned by the Mo's) Ancestry’s Associations with FamilySearch:

    "Ancestry’s Associations with FamilySearch I think one of the reasons that people think Ancestry is owned by the LDS church is that they mix it up with FamilySearch.org.

    Who owns Family Search? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    Like Ancestry, Family Search is a global online genealogy service based in Provo, Utah.

    The two rivals have a history of partnership and collaboration.

    The LDS operates a global network of Family History Centres for genealogy research. Members get free access to Ancestry.com services from those centers.

    In 2013, Ancestry and FamilySearch started a significant collaboration in access to archives across both sites.

    When you’re logged into Ancestry and searching for records, the results may include documents that are indexed by FamilySearch.

    Is Ancestry.com Owned By The Mormon Church? Why do people mistakenly think that Ancestry is owned by Mormons?

    Is it just because Ancestry and FamilySearch are two online genealogy giants headquartered in Utah? No, I think there’s more to it than that.

    The original buyers of “Ancestry, inc” (Paul Allen and Dan Taggart) were both members of the Church of Latter-day Saints.

    Also, because the company is based in Utah, many of the staff were drawn from the Mormon community.

    Brigham Young University looms large in this regard. Unlike Ancestry, it is owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    I’ve already mentioned that Allen and his business partner were BYU alumni. A sizeable number of local Ancestry staff are alumni."

    So it appears ownership was never their thing, but a heavy influence remains. I assume that if Mo's are running the show, or did at some point, that the church has de facto control over the business, because the people running the company would just bend over for the church at any point, whether that means giving them access to the DNA database unofficially, allowing them to search it any time for any reason, etc.

  • My folks want to give ancestry.com a try what do I need to know?

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  • It would be interesting to see if it's ever happened in the past, for sure. I too assumed it was due to poor education, but the three people I mentioned (my old boss and the 2 new coworkers) all came from different areas of the U.S. and are each in different generations (1 Boomer, 1 Gen X, 1 Millennial), so they all have very different backgrounds/education experiences, yet they ALL struggle to read anything longer than a single sentence. It's infuriating. I try to be patient, because hey, we all have our thing we suck at, but it's honestly a little scary that they and so many other are out there not following directions simply because they can't read them.

  • Reading comprehension has gone down the tubes. I dunno if it's from people watching too many TikToks and their attention span can't handle reading more than one sentence anymore, or what, but I have definitely noticed a change in people's ability to read and understand the content of what they just read.

    Where I work, my old boss never wrote anything down, did not like to communicate via email, and insisted on phone calls/verbal meetings instead. When they announced they were taking a new job, we begged them to create an SOP of all the things they did with detailed instructions because NONE of it had ever been written down. We were told no, they couldn't do that. No explanation other than "I can't." And I'm convinced that they simply couldn't read, or could BARELY read.

    So I created the SOP instead, detailed as hell, everything in one place. Sections, subsections, hyperlinks, it's all there. 2 new employees come into the office, I'm supposed to train them. I do, and I show them the SOP, tell them "everything you need to know is in this SOP", so that AFTER I train them, they can reference it.

    They never reference it, ever. They ask me how to do the things they've forgotten instead. I just point them to the correct section in the SOP and tell them to read it. BUT THEY DON'T READ. It's insane! How do they get by in life in general!?

  • I've had the same experience, though only for about the past 10 years, and at 45 now, it's more like there's a single day in any given month where the crazy depression/dark thoughts and rage at the simplest stupid shit occurs, and by now I'm able to stop in the moment and recognize that it's just temporary, and it always resolves itself in an hour or two. I can't wait for menopause to hit and for all this shit to be over.

  • If you cannot cook yourself a basic meal (I'm talking boil water, dump a box of pasta in, cook it, strain it, then add red sauce from a jar level of basic), you have failed as a human being. An adult using the whole excuse of "I just can't cook" is pathetic and inexcusable unless you have genuine mental incapacities that prevent you from learning a basic recipe and how to use a stovetop, especially now with access to the internet/videos teaching how to cook.

  • So much winning!

  • Gross

  • I think the supply-chain issue is often forgotten about. Sure, we can open manufacturing businesses here to make whatever, but where do people think the materials will come from? Do they think we've had all the materials we need to manufacture goods here in America all along and we just haven't been because everything is cheaper to make overseas? Just look at this list of major exports by country. Does the US have SOME of this stuff? Sure, but enough to make enough goods for US consumers on a regular, as-needed basis? No way. We will need raw materials, and there won't be enough to go around.

  • It's still cold here in Massachusetts, so I figured why not.

  • Good to know!

  • Do you maybe mean a formula patent or trademark instead of a copyright?

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  • Take this with a grain of salt, but this is ICE's (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) definition of human trafficking and is of course open to interpretation:

    "Human trafficking is a global crime that trades in people of all genders, ages and backgrounds and exploits them for profit. Human trafficking generally takes two forms: sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age; or the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage or slavery."

    https://www.ice.gov/features/human-trafficking

    Interpol's definition: "While there is a clear distinction between human trafficking and migrant smuggling, they can also be linked. Human trafficking occurs for specific purposes, such as sexual exploitation, labour exploitation, forced criminality, and organ removal, among other forms of exploitation. Migrant smugglers take advantage of people who want to leave their home countries to escape poverty, conflict, and crises, or simply want to seek a better life. Even if irregular migrants generally enter into the journey voluntarily, they are often exposed to significant risks, including that of being trafficked, kidnapped or dying in transit to their destinations."

    https://www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Human-trafficking-and-migrant-smuggling

  • I'd be flooding Instagram with pro-420 Day memes, if I had an account.

  • This is what happens to me when I try to do math

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  • But this will make the cost of eggs go down!/s

  • Ugh, it would be awful lol

  • Me too and then I was like, have I been missing out on some sugar-related sexual experience this whole time!?

  • One day I noticed he hadn't moved in like, a while. I opened the cage and went to pick him up, and he was hard as a rock. RIP Teddy.

  • My partner was on it for like a minute but I don't think they use it anymore. Certainly not as much as I do.