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  • Lulz. If you can't spar with me, you will get eaten up by the actual far right / mainstream Americans out there.

    Be happy I'm willing to come over here and push back against your bubble. You guys obviously need it if you're upvoting shitty misinformation memes like this.

    The best part of this entire discussion? Elon Musk is part of the $1/year salary club. Your entire fucking meme doesn't even apply to the most corrupt of CEOs.

    Your argument sucks and you should make a new one. Sorry I'm the bearer of bad news but that's better than y'all idiots going out to the real world and having a far right goon own you in a debate.

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  • The board of directors removes the obvious corruption argument.

    And shareholders select the board of directors anyway, so if shareholders agree to new terms of values then CEOs can and will be fired.

    I'm looking at Intel for example and how they mistreated Pat Gelsinger and fired him despite being a technical leader. And the new incoming CEO is Lip-Bu Tan, who is a non-technical finance bro who is worse. Why did the shareholders (and board of directors) prefer Lip-Bu Tan?

    There is a large scale hero worship bro culture that's at the root of all the problems here, a culture that millions of shareholders have which is then passed to the Board of Directors and finally the C-suite that the Board hires.

    But no. Let make shitty memes that misunderstand the power dynamics and perpetuates misinformation. That will help your argument lol.

    EDIT and that doesn't even get to say, all the CEOs who take a $1/year paycheck just to prove you wrong. The problem here is hero worship cult culture. The pay and salaries are a distraction and easily avoided with various simple political / Public Relations moves.

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  • Because today's hero worship culture makes the mass of shareholders believe that these CEOs have skills that cannot be replicated by cheaper labor.

    But that's not quite as simple a problem. The issue is that you are up against literally millions of shareholders who have different values than you.

    Go talk to a Tesla shareholder. They pretty much think Elon is a god. So no amount of salary is too much as long as they get Elon leading those companies. (But Elon also only takes a $1/year salary anyway to prove how awesome he is, so this entire discussion train is immediately derailed if you actually start trying to apply it in practice).

    This entire meme just fundamentally misses the entire fucking problem and is nothing more than a distraction.

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  • Exactly, except in reverse.

    If you want to attract the talent of someone who has networth in the millions+++, you need to pay them more.

    The form of your argument and where you are going with the discussion is very short sighted. This isn't a path to any actual winning argument. I suggest you start elsewhere.

    This is the problem with shitty memes. They poison your brain and make you dumb. If you actually want to make a reasonable argument throw this topic away and start anew.

    It's not you who is wrong. It's this meme. It's just a terrible starting place for discussion and is innately to your disadvantage.

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  • The board of directors is doing so. And they do so because the board follows the will of the shareholders. And the shareholders ultimately decide the fate of companies.

    But that won't fit in a simple meme will it?

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  • Non sequitur and you know it. Hopeless blathering hoping to find some way to make this meme correct.

    Just rewrite the meme correctly from the start so that it's actually a reflection of reality rather than a reflection of ignorance.

    These low effort memes are just that. Low effort communication. Misinformation is bad in all regards and if shitty incorrect arguments are all that is needed to convince you of .... whatever this is.... then you're an ignorant uneducated fucked citizen. Surely you see the problem here?

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  • It's not about better or worse. It's about being correct and understanding the people and societal structures at work here

    If you aren't interested in knowing how and why CEOs get paid, maybe don't make dumbass memes about this subject.

    Or do. I don't give a shit. But good luck having people believe you if you can't even get the basics correct. Or otherwise feel good that your online culture got infiltrated by blatant misinformation.

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  • That's literally the same power you have at work. Just leave work if you don't like your paycheck.

    Do you see how stupid that argument sounds now?

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  • Depends on the company.

    Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, owns 0.02% of Apple for example. This is #1 largest company in the world.

    Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, owns 0.01% of Microsoft. This is the 2nd largest company in the world.

    Jensen Huang is 3.5% of NVidia a serious level of ownership but a far cry from controlling the board. 3rd largest company but the biggest shareholder is Vanguard group at over 8%.

    Institutional banks have the largest leeway, by far, in all of these companies. Understanding the voting structure of these companies is important if you don't want to sound like an ignorant dumbass.

    Yeah, there's your Elon Musks and whatnot as exceptions. But they're really rare even in the scope of top companies of the SP500 and whatnot.

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  • A good example of the ignorance of the masses and the left

    The Board of Directors selects (and pays) the CEO.

  • What is your best supernatural anime?

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  • When They Cry (Higurashi, specifically the original 2006 and its original answer arcs Kai).

  • ZENSHU • Zenshuu. - Episode 12 discussion

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  • This needed one more episode of falling action.

    But otherwise, really good anime. Imma remember this one for a long time.

  • What's up with the isekai genre? Are there any good isekais out there?

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  • No Fap is more of an internet phenomenon that far left and far right alike have fallen for.

  • What's up with the isekai genre? Are there any good isekais out there?

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    • One is a stereotypical suburban liberal / Bernie Sanders supporter (surprised me)
    • Another is Indian
    • One is a soccer mom, super conservative.

    Just 3 I can think of that'd be against something like Konosuba.

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  • What's up with the isekai genre? Are there any good isekais out there?

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  • English dub of Digimon S1 is seriously a masterpiece, if we are talking about kid-based Isekai.

    Yes. English dub only. Saban changed a lot of dialogue, music and such. Yeah yeah Butterfly (Japanese song) is great. But have you heard 'Hey Digimon hey Digimon'??

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  • Shield Hero taught publishers that people want that but also with the main character owning slaves for some reason.

    Oh, it's an open secret that a lot of anime plots are first tested in the pornography / H Eroge market first. Slave waifus (that fall in love with main character) have been a thing there for literally decades.

    The question is how good do these writers hide that fact from the public and mainstream. And erm..... Yeah, Shield Hero doesn't do so good there.

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  • I should note that KonoSuba is on the sexual side with its camera angles and... erm... Darkness. Just Darkness in general.

    Hilariously so of course. But I've tried to get people to watch Konosuba in my group and they were all turned off by its sexual nature.

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  • 4 humans of "reality" becoming Kings and Queens of a fantasy world after meeting the god of that world? With Judeo-Christian slop words thrown around to sound deeper?

    Definitely an Isekai.

    Alas, its too 'new". Its decades after "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court", which not only has kings, queens, fantasy, overpowered main character, science (gatling guns used on fantasy troops)... but also has the "Full Sentence Title" that Isekai are known for.