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  • I worked for 5 years to promote LVT.

    In real life it's far more complex to administer than a straight property tax, that's why it will never be popular. It also creates bizarre outcomes where where it rewards some land uses and punishes others and creates weird incentives about land topology and parcelization.

    Who is going to assess the value of the land as distinct from improvements? Geologists? Environmentalists? Different parents will presume different values and push those values. Property taxes are assumed basically based on other similar properties on the market, in terms of size, age, and space. But 2 parcels of 2 acre right next to each other could be radically different values depending in there topology and environments. I lived on a 2 acre parcel once, and our neighbors had 1/4 acre plots, but our 2 acres was mostly swampy low lying land that was not adjacent to the part the land our house was on that was regular. It was also weirdly shaped and the 'access' to it was a narrow 10ft corridor. It was essentially... useless land attached to our parcel, we couldn't even develop it because in order to clear it you'd have to get permission form your neighbor to drive construction equipment across their driveway/lawn and destroy it. The extra 'land' in our case added 0 value to our property and in fact removed value, as houses around us were often selling for more due to the extra liability our extra land came with.

    It introduces just as many problems as it those it claims to solve. It makes sense in some limited contexts, like say, urban land use across small and regular parcels, but not all land is urban land.

    You forget that George was writing when society 70% agricultural and rural and working off a model of undeveloped land. in 2026 only 17% of the USA population lives outside of cities.

  • Georgism is an ideology.

    They think the LVT will solve all social problems ever. That's the premise of the book he wrote about it.

    He's basically like Marx, but instead of communal ownership of production he thinks taxing land value will solve all society's problems. Like communists, Georgists think if you just read this book and BELIEVE poverty will disappear.

    The LVT has a lot of merits, but it has lots of drawbacks. It's difficult to value land as district from property, for one. It would also be highly inaccurate in the case of mineral rights and other factors.

  • because conspiracy theory nonsense and the government is inherently evil, or something.

    apparently 'freedom' is living in the backwoods your entire life as an undocumented citizen or something.

    and medical care and social security are 'evil'.

  • because in the USA we hate teachers. it's really that stupid and simple. and we hate poor people even more than we hate teachers... and most public teachers are automatically poor people due to horrible wages.

    teachers are now viewed as professionals worth of respect. they are seen as losers who failed at life and deserve to be punished and hated for it. they are seen as inherently lazy for choosing it as a profession. teachers are public servants, and public servants are all leeches on society.

    it was this way growing up for me, and it's even worse today. and all our public policies and funding around education reflect this.

    our society loves to go on about education, but in practice is essentially anti-education.

    the last time the USA made public investments in education was post ww2, because of the Soviets. Then we rapidly clawed it all back during the 1980s and it's been in decline for 50 years now. we did that because we had an existential threat and were in competition with the Soviets. Once we 'won' we no longer had any need to care about education and we essentially have a two-tier system of seduction, one for the rich that is the best in the world, and one for everyone else that is on par developing nations.

    If you come here and got to spend a day in a rich school vs a poor school, your mind would be blown. One will be doing amateur rocketry, and the other can't even do basic arithmetic or reading.

  • you can learn to write fast and legibly.

    that is not an inherent trait

    the idea that people inherently good at things, or not, forever, is really stupid and destructive.

  • you did if you took calculus. but only 20% of students take calclus and only 40% take pre calc.

    you don't need them for geo, tri, or algebra

  • they are happy to spend money on technology and shiny new buildings.

    they aren't spending money on teaching staff. teaching staff who are now more credentialed than ever, but know less than ever.

    the issue is the metricization of education. everything must be measured... and this creates a perverse system where everything is now about increasing the metrics, regardless of improving education.

    not to mention the changing in parenting where ever parent things their child is a genius and it's the 'school system' that's failing their kid, instead of their kid being a dumbass jerk who refuses to learn or participate in their own education.

  • or maybe kids should learn to do that on their own free time as it interests them and focus on more basic skillsets.

    you can't code if you can't read or do math. you can't do graphic design if you don't know how to draw and the basics of color theory and all that.

    one of the greatest mistakes in modern usa education is forgetting the idea that skills build on one another and you can't do more advanced things without mastering the basics first. but today we shove kids forward no matter their level of competency because we are not allowed to punish or poorly grade those who fail to learn new skills. we punish the teachers for holding the students accountable to standards, and we reward the teachers/schools who shove kids through the system and 'innovate' new ways for them to inflate test scores.

  • the problem with American education is cultural. other countries have stronger cultures around education.

    and certain groups in America have very strong cultures around education, mostly Asians and wealthier people, but those are minorities in the broader culture which basically sees education as annoying and stupid crap they have to do to get a job, that they want to do in the cheapest way possible.

    if being a teacher started at a salary of 80-100K, things would be a lot different. But it takes a decade or more of teaching to get that level of pay. The only people paid well in education are administrators, who are the ones who give themselves raises and stagnant teacher pay to their own benefit.

    and it's the same at all levels of education, because American culture says 'be a greedy shitty person on top who enriches yourself at the expense of everyone else'. and we see the classroom as place to wage a culture war first and foremost, and education is much lower on the priority list.

  • they didn't want to pay for it. it's expensive to license music, esp across multiple countries and events. each skater basically has to hire a copyright lawyer to file all the paperwork for them.

    none of this was an issue until recently... people didn't care if they used their music for the obscure sport of figure skating. now they sue you for doing so. it's add tons of cost and legal bullshit for skaters, so why even bother? just use uncopyrighted music for free and don't get sued.

    blame greedy lawyers and record companies who decided they needed a 'slice' of the tiny sport of figure skating and now want to sue skaters for 5-6 figure sums. 'untapped market' of exploiting teenage girls and competitive professionals.

  • Because the the rich people who would pay for quality pizza don't live there. they live in cities and fancy suburbs.

    and poor people that live in those places are not going to pay $50 for a fresh made pizza with authentic ingredients. they are used to paying $10 for artificial chemical pizza products that pizza hut now offers.

  • because in the 90s we started teaching people that their feelings are the truth, rather than mostly stupid and wrong.

    if there is anything in common with ignorant fools it's that they think their feelings is the only measure of things, and truth and knowledge is just a feeling they feel like any other.

    i was lucky enough to learn in school that my feelings are stupid and wrong and they need to be verified before i can trust them and that other people know more about things than i do. but i'm part of the homosexual queertrans agenda like that.

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  • it doesn't do that. most business owners and home owners are not above others nor do they cause other people suffering.

    some people are abusive and exploitative, yes. that is regardless of their financial status.

    And who judges all of this? I work in medical trials. Is my job causing other people to suffer because we have them go on experimental treatments that might not improve their chances of beating a disease? is my job evil or something because it's not feeding the homeless? according to some of my ex girlfriends, my job was causing them suffering because I wasn't making enough money to buy them expensive things like Audis and go on trips to Bali ... are they right? They also got very angry when I suggest that they if we lived together we should split costs, even when they made more money than I did, and their reasoning was that because I'm male and I'm advantaged in life therefore I should be giving them my money and I should be doing everything I can to make more money, and give to them because they deserve it more than I do.

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  • I'm not currently a landlord and don't intend to be one ever again unless my circumstance sharing housing with someone else.

    You simply don't think economic relationships should exist at all, and probably think people shouldn't have to breathe oxygen or eat food. I mean that's a nice sentiment, but good luck making any of that real I guess?

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  • according to many other random people here, I should be murdered and killed because I own property that I live in, and they think that's correct because of some theory they believe in and/or they feel like they 'deserve' it more because their efforts are heroic and good and my efforts were bad and evil.

    what they really mean is 'I wish I had the power to kill and murder people who had more than I do because I'm bitter and blame others for my failings and refuse to take responsibility for my inability to provide for myself. So I'll just sit around and fantasize and wish violence on others in my head and be abusive on the internet.'

    Sitting around and fantasizing about a prefect world in which your life will be a wonderful and happy is a lot easier... than actually making your life better though work.

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  • ok, so if i come over and murder you and steal all your shit, you're perfectly OK with that? As long, as I think it's moral to do that, we're good right?

    Good to know. All you are making an argument for is total chaos where everyone's feelings are all that matters, and it's ok to do whatever i want to anyone as long as any of us feel it's good to do that thing.

    I bought a home and then rented my spare bedroom. No theft was involved and nobody's money was involved other than my own and my renters. I also paid taxes on my rental income. Taxes you benefit from and I'm sure I pay a lot more tax than you do.

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  • do they murder and kill all the conservatives, moderates, and white people in Star Trek?

    last time i saw it all the captains were white guys...

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  • It entirely depends on the house. Some people get bankrupted by their homes, some get really lucky and have very low maintenance costs. When I rented I had something like 60%+ disposable income.

    Sounds like you are very economically well-off, and you can likely afford to outsource your labor and upkeep. I could not. I had more free money and time when I rented because I cannot afford to higher maids, landscapers, and etc. I do almost every minor repair myself, including plumbing and electrical and I absolutely dread the day I will have to replace a roof or do another very costly repair and it sucks to have to have a pile of money I have to keep aside for that, when I'd rather use it for something enjoyable. Owning a home has seriously impacted my ability to vacation and travel in both terms of money and time to the point I haven't left the country in 5 years. I am 'wealtheir' on paper, but that wealth doesn't do much for me in my day to day life. My 8 grand a month income does less for me than my 2 grand a month income did for me 10 years ago, because so much of it is sunk into my home.

  • whose reality? people live in very different realities and in 2025 the notion of a shared reality is ever more tenuous as people bubble themselves up.

    i invoke fallacies because they are part of reality. the vast majority of human beings operate with cognitive and logical fallacies, there are inherent aspects of every single person.

    you can prattle on about your perfect society where intolerance is not allowed, but how are you going to enforce that? through violence? would you yourself, wish to be subject to such violence if you yourself had thoughts that society deemed intolerant? if so, great. but many people would not want to be a part of such a society.

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