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That is like being baffled that someone remains religious after "reading the Bible". Everyone is reading from just a few select passages that suit them while ignoring what the rest say and imply about them and their religion.
Those were simpler times, where some adults weren't so insecure they could get offended by cross-dressing.
And then they killed all the Satyr plays because forced insecurities is a great way to make malleable societies upon which to build an empire to benefit the few.
/dpostb4ileav
It was on discount on Jihad R Us.
But seriously, doubt the relation can be considered much of a secret.
This reminds me of when during sieges during the Middle Ages they used to lob the bodies of the dead back inside the castle. I'm not sure if it's because of the lines they've crossed over and ignored regarding civilian casualties on this, or that this will essentially cause other parties to cross those same lines. This is giving ideas to China and Russia, and humanity has been far shittier in the past, I really don't want to see how bad we will regress to.
The guy literally denounced a portion of his own base during the sexist Bernie Bro scandal, and has always encouraged the vote to go to the right candidate when he saw he couldn't win. Based as fuck.
This always ends up being the ending of any such sites. All you have to search for is "Glassdoor" and "sued" to see why.
I've said it before and I will say it again.
I love how people like you are the flip side equal of Trump people warping reality to shit on it. Same bullshit, both sides aren’t equal but people like you certainly resemble them closer.
The comic was not focused on making fun of American neo-Nazis, rather, it portrays a profoundly twisted caricature of MAGA voters that makes them all out to be neo-Nazis. You'd be closer to the truth if you left the neo- part, but I doubt you'd truly realize why.
As to the allusion to the US Civil War or World War II, where division was as irrecoverably rampant, you'd have to be a moron not to see that that is the inevitable conclusion when all you want to see is the worst of the other side. Trump may be a problem, but supposing Harris wins, you will still have Trumpers left over. It got this bad when things were much better, and while they don't mind burning bridges, clearly the flip side of the coin that you are does not mind burning bridges either. Biggest difference between you and me, I can easily follow this to its inevitable conclusion, but if Harris is being such a great candidate it's because she's not burning bridges like you guys are.
I doubt you know nuance. Knowing nuance involves not running off into wild caricatures, gross exaggerations, and outright lies like you have. While I was accused of trolling, your comment is a prime example of it.
I think it will meet my Creation Store fan expectation, and that's not something I am looking forward to.
The crab is always looking at the sea so that it never goes into it when going side to side. All it knows is anger. Deep.
With that context in mind, do you see that your comment(s) effectively justify or lend legitimacy to what the joke MAGA character is doing?
It is not.
If someone has a flaw and you accuse them of being much worse than it is, it does push them away and make them think that maybe other people who are also getting accused unjustly, making them more willing to listen and get influenced by those people. The probability they get lulled into a bubble becomes much higher. It’s why a lot of families that trusted each other have been broken up by politics.
It is making a point of addressing what this comic is brushing off by being so reductive. There is no one in the real world that's like the guy in the comic, but there are plenty of people who will treat anyone, even close family members, that for one reason or another have been guiled onto some interest in the MAGA movement as if they were full blown Nazis.
You expect me to simply concede to you, while you just simply ignore what I've said. There are YouTube channels of people who engage with MAGA Trumpers, and while a despicable dose may be unrecoverable, there are plenty that are just living in their own bubble, oblivious to what Trump really is or even why other people are also following him, who will continue to get cult programmed by his rhetoric and who will be that far worse because of the people who burn the bridges back out of it. A lot of times they clearly have no rational motive - they are desperate for feeling they belong somewhere. This is a cult, and they are its victims.
you have had another ban a while back with this as a suggestion
Talk about pulling straws and talking without knowing. This ban was from Fuck Cars (hint, the name sort of gives away their commitment against negativity and rage), and the only one bringing it up is you, not me, I don't mind being banned from it.
But let me repeat.
there is no need of another internet space full of competition, negativity, rage.
From Fuck Cars.
Case in point, the contradiction in its very name should make it clear. Their community name was literally formulated to spark negativity and rage against cars. And they act like it too, if you go into threads they get to show on your main page and are even just simply amicable to cars.
Some context: This was from a thread with users who didn't seem to want to accept that the speed of the vehicle and how appropriate it was in regards to the rest of the traffic was more important than the mass/KE (consider a stationary apartment complex/elevator and its dangers to your health, for example) and who didn't think that outfitting bikes with more turn signals and indicators and perhaps even electric pedal assistant that would ensure a certain travel speed would be more respectful to vehicles on the road.
I can't really pinpoint who the offended mod was, as they just parade as normal users until they get offended by responses they didn't like and then switch to their mod alt to ban, never actually engaging users with discussions or warnings about the actions they are going to enforce. They didn't seem to mind negativity at my suggestions, but none of my replies were negative, they were dismissive at worst.
Can't say we were a good fit for either. If it's as you say, it would only be fair for them, being the responsible people they are, to have made it clear themselves, and never did. Good thing they can rely on people who admit they have no idea about what happened or what caused it to make their point for them, because people should always go by their suspicions instead of context.
But please, don't try to derail the thread with other bans I never had an issue enough to bring up here. You have no context about what was said (unless you are alting) and it isn't relevant except to suggest "hey guys, look, this guy gets banned elsewhere, he's probably guilty!"
Political Memes I'm just surprised, and well, it also reminds me a lot of how Reddit's worldnews mods react to anyone who tries to call out Israel during the wrong timezone. Sure, it was probably the delivery, the message is the same. Sorry the delivery made it strike closer to the heart. That was the point, had there not been a comic, I would not have made that comment. And like I’ve said, even supposing the ban was justified, the selective removal of comments is very questionable and hints at something else. Frankly, getting hurt feeling "from the delivery" while not minding their own as an alt because it followed the circlejerk, I suspect.
This post is my counter to it. I don't mind the downvotes, so feel free to them if you disagree.
There was absolutely no "sympathy for Neo-Nazism". I never denied the association, I just made a point of that stands on its own, akin to that "Not everyone who supports Trump is a Nick Fuentes character, of course" and even when flawed if labeled as something worse just pushes them away to be influenced by people like Trump. "Not everyone who supports Trump is a Nick Fuentes character, of course", a point which you have just made. Should you be banned for it? Because I sort of feel I was. I never "started at a position that entertains the hateful argument or association as legitimate". You are shifting the argument to an extreme caricature.
Explain to me how the following leads to all that you are claiming:
This was the post:
https://lemm.ee/post/42673367/14912144
I replied:
If someone has a flaw and you accuse them of being much worse than it is, it does push them away and make them think that maybe other people who are also getting accused unjustly, making them more willing to listen and get influenced by those people. The probability they get lulled into a bubble becomes much higher. It's why a lot of families that trusted each other have been broken up by politics.
This comic had been reposted before but it is also incredibly reductive. But if you seriously believe those other guys are that bad, just break out into a civil/world war already, there's basically no other way to solve that problem... Maybe the US really should dissolve into multiple nations.
To critics who just strawmanned the argument or alluded to extreme misrepresentation, I replied:
I love how people like you are the flip side equal of Trump people warping reality to shit on it. Same bullshit, both sides aren’t equal but people like you certainly resemble them closer.
I expanded upon my comment by replying:
The MAGA movement definitely plays on and has racist undertones. But everything I’ve said still stands, and you are still only seeing extremes. Maybe the nerve that was hit was you pissing on centuries of psychology about cults and how people like you are as willing as them to burn bridges.
To claims that my original comment was reductive while believing they were that flawed, I replied:
It is reductive, mostly because I’m not capable of considering someone redeemable and irredeemable at the same time. Take your pick. It is a two way street, and you see them as that flawed and they certainly aren’t going to cross outside of their bubble, no chance to ever meet on that street.
I don’t live in lala land, but then again, I’m not the one seeing all of them that flawed. To me, that’s like saying that every member of a cult that went to do something infamous was despicable, it shows zero psychological awareness.
And when they did eventually recognize it was like a cult, I replied:
Then either they are that flawed and are really literal Nazis getting their Nazi tattoos, or they get increasingly sucked into participating within a cult, take your pick.
You know one way that helps them carve off people from the wider populace? Being accused of having a flaw greater than it really is, carving them away from those they should be sticking to from their side and letting them be pulled into the cult’s bubble. And for many, that flaw is simply being senile, not racist, and even then still generally needing a fair dose of cult programming to eventually instill those racist sentiments.
When people thought I just should read up on Nazis and that I didn't realize the parallels,
The problem is on your side, not seeing that that was also what happened to those pulled into the Nazi cult of personality.
If someone has a flaw and you accuse them of being much worse than it is, it does push them away and make them think that maybe other people who are also getting accused unjustly, making them more willing to listen and get influenced by those people. The probability they get lulled into a bubble becomes much higher. It's why a lot of families that trusted each other have been broken up by politics.
This comic had been reposted before but it is also incredibly reductive. But if you seriously believe those other guys are that bad, just break out into a civil/world war already, there’s basically no other way to solve that problem… Maybe the US really should dissolve into multiple nations.
The fact that you are as oblivious as a Trumper to it when I literally mention world war in my second sentence is astounding, but not surprising.
I was flippant, but I stand behind my argument. And it stands, now reproduced in several threads whereas before it would have stood downvoted and I would not have cared. I will continue to make it, because society is as it is right now because too many people just want to burn bridges. The outcome of that seems inevitable to me, specially when people will just resort to extremes.
And like I've said, even supposing the ban was justified, the selective removal of comments is very questionable and hints at something else.
The problem is that IP laws eventually are lobbied by the big copyright holders into being excessively long. How long did Steamboat Willie really have to be copyrighted for, and has their release into the public domain really affected Disney?
Eventually after you get back the money you invested, it's just free money, and people like free money so much they pay lawyers and lobbyists that free money so that they can keep it coming.
Even when it doesn't, it becomes its eventual outcome.
He sort of already gave away the validity of his claims when he said he didn't mind making them up.
I would hold out on it, not preorder. I already got ripped off by Sono Sion. I can only hope that it does encourage innovation when it comes out so that eventually in decades it will also be in Europe and I will eventually also be able to use my dusty EV savings account to buy it.
No, I see the parallels perfectly, since I'm not blind to an argument like you are.
https://lemm.ee/post/42673367/14904356
The problem is on your side, not seeing that that was also what happened to those pulled into the Nazi cult of personality. The fact that you are as oblivious as a Trumper to it when I literally mention world war in my second sentence is astounding, but not surprising.
Medical advances do not matter if they make you bankrupt or you cannot get access to them. Living a longer life with worse power of acquisition is both a load for society and a drain on their longterm quality of life (nevermind how it depends on a system of infinitely increasing population growth). Women voting and blacks riding in the back of buses is a US thing, one that is regressing. Videogames are an improvement on the quality of entertainment, if you are going to judge that as quality of life put yourself in a tube and live in VR, Now we export black lung to raw goods providers in China and Africa.
You've lost a huge amount of power of acquisition, but at least even though those things you can acquire are on the cheaper side, there's more and newer options to choose from. The loss of those jobs have consequences, even if they bring advancement.
Then either they are that flawed and are really literal Nazis getting their Nazi tattoos, or they get increasingly sucked into participating within a cult, take your pick.
You know one way that helps them carve off people from the wider populace? Being accused of having a flaw greater than it really is, carving them away from those they should be sticking to from their side and letting them be pulled into the cult's bubble. And for many, that flaw is simply being senile, not racist, and even then still generally needing a fair dose of cult programming to eventually instill those racist sentiments.
Artificial, even.