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As a European, it’s been a long time coming. I would say tide turned in favour of it and both Ukraine and Israel-Gaza have been important factors - Most countries suddenly decided they didn’t have enough sway over public support for Western imperialism. And the big part of that has been the internet.

Very cool! How are you going about printing the different colours? Some fancy multi-material thing or just manually changing filaments between layers?

Sadly all those search engines directly or indirectly censor piracy results. I use DDG daily but they sadly do a lot of censoring results of various kinds, even just political.

Android is already thoroughly Linux-based ;) You just called all android users nerds!

Literally the opposite of 1984 - War is now war again!

I mean, nobody here or in the tweet is actually praising Putin or Modi either, in fairness. Just the decision to pursue better diplomacy with China, I’d celebrate if Israel made the same decision, because it’d be a step in a positive direction.

I’m told my cute’n’calm Hexbear instance means there’s a lot of drama here I can’t see. So apologies if my tone comes off badly in the ol’ .ml context.

Rest assured I was just out for fun conversation to learn about atomic stuff :) Hope the rest of this thread ain’t too stressful.

Oof, fair enough, I certainly don’t see a lot of said ruckus. Cheers for the context.

You sailed into the UK in a small boat, during the period at which the country is at it’s most fascistic mouth-frothing about people arriving by small boats. Blame right-wingers.

McDonald’s in the 2000s wasn’t too bad

McDonalds in the 2000s:

• Secretly illegally marketing oversized portions and hiding nutrition. Major recognised contribution to childhood obesity.
• Directly contributing to mass deforestation. Eventually being forced into a moratorium with Brazilian traders.
• Hundreds of millions of dollars in wage theft
• Recurring use of criminally low wages, union-busting, and reliance on child labor
• Secretly feeding beef in it’s vegetarian meals
• Already had its own dedicated ‘legal cases’ wikipedia page

I mean yeah all that but at least they had a playground.

Because I was being told the pros outweight the cons, and if I can get a better OS, then I want it? I feel like it was a reasonable question and we had a good conversation out of it.

I also put ‘normal’ in quotes myself, I obviously meant a non-atomic Fedora.

I feel like you’re coming across unnecessarily dismissively here, when I was just out for a nice conversation on the benefit of atomic setups (and got two! :) ).

GBA emulation was my goddamn jam. Back in 2008, during a school summer holiday, I downloaded a torrent called “GBA 1100 English ROMs”, played every one, and kept the funnest ones.

Ones that are still top of the list:

• FF Tactics Advanced (replaying this on my TV with Batocera right now)
• Fire Emblem
• Golden Sun 1 + 2
• Harvest Moon More Friends of Mineral Town. Admittedly every Harvest Moon is dwarfed by Stardew Valley now, but they’re still good games.
• Kirby Amazing Mirror + Dreamland
• Lunar Legend
• Medabots RPG if I’m in the mood.
• Megamans
• Metroids
• Monster Rancher Advance 2
• Pokemons
• Riviera the Promised Land (just replayed this all through last month, so tasty good)
• Summon Night - Swordcraft Story 1 + 2
• Sword of Mana
• Tactics Ogre - the Knight of Lodis
• Yggdra Union - We’ll never fight alone
• Zeldas

Some of 'em are very subjective tastes, but I’d say worth checking out. If nothing else, I point people to Riviera as one of the coolest but relatively ‘simple’ RPGs of all time.

I mean, the illustration itself, not the concept…

This is very cool, and I can suddenly see atomic being useful for certain circumstances. Won’t be using it for my personal computer main driver, but hopping/resetting this is easily attracts me so. Thank you!

Thank you for the informative response! :)

saying don’t mention stability is proving the point

My point is that stability is already 100% fine for me now. So saying you’ll make my already rock-solid experience somehow more stable is meaningless. As a power user for over a decade, I’ve personally experienced zero issues where I wished Fedora was somehow more stable. It’s like telling me that Silverblue connects to the internet - Like yes, I already have that.

From what I’m reading, it sounds like the singular ‘pro’ is being forced to do cleaner, more self-contained practices. I can totally see how that would be helpful for some people. But personally, I would genuinely despise that kind of restriction.

I’m admittedly the kind of person who hates being forced to do the ‘best practice’ thing. I’m genuinely happy that my Linux distro will me rm -rf the root partition (with an ‘are you sure’ prompt these days :) ). I’m happy that if I really want to purge the kernel package with dnf, then I can. I want (and kind of need) my freedom to make a mess, if I tell Linux to jump, it will goddamn jump, even if it’s a bad practice technically terrible decision. I have zero interest in going all around the houses just to do it the technically correct (and sometimes less-effort-in-the-long-run) way. If I ever want a clean plate, I can still spin up a container just like you’re saying.

So I get the feeling that atomic is very much not for me, which is what I suspected :) Very glad that people like yourself find it an improvement, that’s what flavours are for!

Where is this from? It looks depressingly old :(

Thanks for the response, though up to this sentence I’m hearing extra busywork and slow/annoying containerising, in exchange for vague security platitude and a tool which I can already use.

It’s also nice to be able to rebase your distro whenever you want to try out different spins and features, makes inter-fedora atomic distro hopping easy without destroying your configs.

I’m interested by this. Is there a uniqueness to Atomic setups such that you can (more easily) keep your user partition, GNOME configs, etc. and swap out the Fedora distro underneath?

Are we really still asking why Americans die in larger quantities than other western nations? The numbers are fairly clear. Guns, worsening healthcare, worsening poverty, and worsening car culture.

once it clicks, the pros far outweigh the cons

I would love to hear a pro about atomic distros that isn’t some vague platitude about security or stability. I have zero security/stability problems on my ‘normal’ Fedora.

As someone who has steadfastly avoided atomic distros because it sounds like an arseache and the last thing I want is more busywork. Convince me to switch!

Very fun, I’ve been rocking Fedora workstation for years. If Fedora could take off as the gaming distro that’d be great, I’ll get even more up-to-date top-notch graphics drivers without having to change distros