PugJesus

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Lol, every anarchist in the anarchist instance is a tankie

What?

but the one person (you claim is an anarchist) that hangs out with goat all the time, is gone. Figures.

Fucking what.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

If people are fascists for “letting a little misinformation spread”, man, you are the most fascist of all, given the amount of misinformation about the worst genocide right now you vote for.

I don't leave Zionist misinformation to spread uncontested. You, on the other hand, let Holodomor misinformation spread uncontested, despite it being reported and having a standing policy of removing genocide denialism.

Either you don't give a fuck about removing genocide denialism, or you don't think the Holodomor was a genocide. The implications are pretty clear.

I supported a course of action that would have altered the course of German history.

Yes, of course, if only the Spartacist Uprising had destroyed the SPD, then it could have... [checks notes] been destroyed by the Freikorps immediately afterwards, leading to a fascist government over a decade earlier.

Wow. What an amazing 'anarchist' dream you have! And all in service to a coup directly seeking to imitate the Bolshevik government which had dissolved a democratically elected leftist government by force!

What a brave new form of anarchism this is! Almost as brave and coherent as:

we can finally close down this discussion. You can have the final lie.

Excellent attempt at 'closing down the discussion' with another response! Must be another new definition of your's, like how anarchism now means supporting fascism and genocide!

It’s a very useful view in that twisted mind of yours. Even when you know that doing what you’re doing will lead to the worst Fascism in history, you will keep doing it, and blame everyone else for not succeeding in that doomed approach.

"If only the KPD had succeeded in a fascist coup to dismantle democracy against the will of the majority of the population!"

Man, if only the KPD had run in the fucking first elections in Weimar History. You know, like Rosa Luxemburg wanted them to do. But of course, Rosa Luxemburg is just another fucking neolib like me, right?

Sorry that my opinion isn't "Fascist coups are a Good Thing, Actually", unlike what you think 'real anarchists' support.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”,

lmao

Name one.

Rockerface. Was that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? You could've at least said "Name ten" and made me think for a few moments.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

nor have I directly supported genocide with my actions

"I'm just letting a little misinformation spread around contrary to the rules I otherwise rigorously enforce ."

Fits right in with your opinion that "Letting Hitler win was Good, Actually, because the SPD was Bad Team" and "Trump's victory, which will directly lead to billions more in aid for Israel, is actually a stunning show of how much solidarity I have with the Palestinians murdered with that extra military aid!"

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

but I bet you consider yourself a liberal

You'd bet wrong.

I get it, everything you don’t like is fascism,

No, playing apologist for genocide is fascist.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Given that you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”,

Fucking what?

But you’re probably confusing us with the ideal anarchist in your head, who happens to sound something like Pugjesus apparently :D

No? The ideal anarchist sounds nothing like me. I speak to anarchists on here all the fucking time - but I guess you only understand your own narrow social circle, wherein anarchy is somehow compatible with Holodomor denial and Uyghur genocide.

You'll do anything to simp for fascist hierarchies, I guess.

PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Oh look another screenshot that doesn’t show me doing anything of what you said.

I literally pointed out that the comm has a policy of removing genocide denial, but you left Holodomor denial up. Sorry that your literacy is as damaged as your ability to recognize that authoritarian hierarchies are bad even if they're painted red.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

I’m sure the paramilitary murders from the SPD had nothing to do with that.

You think Stalin ordered the KPD to stop cooperating with leftist parties in Weimar Germany because the SPD stopped a coup attempt a decade earlier?

Comrade Stalin, just looking out for the moral purity of his German comrades, huh?

It’s also fascinating how everything outside of capitalist liberal democracy is “fascist” to you now. Literally zero understanding of fascism. You sound like that meme from the Venezuelan diplomat.

... an attempt to implement a totalitarian authoritarian state based on military force and imposing the will of a small party on a wider population under the justification that the will of the minority knows best is generally pretty close to fascism, yes.

I suspect few anarchists would agree with simping for that, but hey, you've certainly proved you're not like other anarchists. Very far from them, in fact!

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Genocide supporter and a liar. The usual combination.

Keep supporting Holodomor denial; we all know genocide apologism is your favorite thing to asspat. And keep upvoting Uyghur Genocide denial too - would hate for you to miss out on that feeling of smug contrarianism over the murder of minorities by red fascists, because it gets one over on "the libs" (here meaning anyone who doesn't support red fascist genocides)

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Once again, I have never done that,

Sorry that you forgot about the Holodomor denialism you've been leaving up in your comms? I understand your memory isn't so great, considering that you can't remember what you've said two days ago. I guess expecting you to remember Holodomor denialism a week ago is too much for you to handle.

Unfortunately, only one of us has actions that directly support genocide ;)

You literally welcomed in the "More Genocide" candidate. Sorry that your guilty conscious torments you.

Oh, what am I saying? A Holodomor denier and Uyghur Genocide denier would never have a silly thing like a conscience.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Illiterate and fascist. A not-uncommon combination.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Lol ye I already saw your opinion on what you would support if an actual alternative outside the ballot existed. You’d go full fash :D

... the "actual alternative outside the ballot" being proposed was a literal fucking coup explicitly along the lines of the ideology that had overthrown a democratically elected leftist government the year before.

"If you don't support fascism with red paint, you're the real fascist!"

And you wonder why I call you a tankie apologist.

The democratic elections that ultimately brought about Hitler. Sure, one of us definitelly supports a path that leads directly to fascism.

The dissolution of the united front brought down the left coalition in Weimar Germany, which brought about Hitler. The KPD, whose boots your are insistently licking, withdrew from the united front, at the behest of Stalin.

But tell me more about how your proposed fascist coup would have stopped fascism!

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Nah man, I’ve already spent my quota of arguing with genocide supporters and liars for the day.

Arguing with yourself again?

Maybe you can argue yourself out of supporting Holodomor denialism.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Never have been, never will be. Won’t find me saying anything like that, but that doesn’t stop you trying apparently :D

So tell me, what's a policy of removing genocide denial, combined with leaving up denial of Uyghur Genocide and Holodomor denial?

Said the actual voter for more genocide.

I voted for Trump? That's news to me.

Sorry that you thought sitting by and letting the fascists win was the moral position. It's consistent though, considering your position that the literal Nazis in 1933 deserved to win because SPD Bad(tm).

Man, most of the politicians you support explicitly deny the most brutal genocide in the world right now. Maybe you should spend some of this outrage doing something about that instead of raging on an internet forum.

Oh yes, how dare I spend time on an internet forum that you're trying to spread genocide denialism in. You're absolutely right, I shouldn't spend any time on here, it's deeply inconvenient for your attempts to normalize Uyghur genocide denial and fucking Holodomor denial. Clearly opposing genocide online means I don't participate in political action anywhere else. I mean, if I did, that might make you feel bad about being a fascist bootlicker.

I give it a year before you start simping for Ukranian genocide, just like all the tankies giving you asspats for being their good little bootlicker.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Fascists according to pugjesus: Anyone who doesn’t ban whoever he wants, and anyone who disagrees with him about liberal democracy. Basically anyone to his left.

The reason I've been calling people fascists is quite explicitly for playing apologist for genocide.

But since you're an ardent genocide apologist these days, I understand that upsets you.

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PugJesus @lemmy.world 4个月前

Dude explicitly doesn’t want to build anything outside the ballot box.

I've explicitly said otherwise, and in conversations with you, no less. But don't let that stop your attempt to pretend that supporting genocide is somehow justified because "A DemSoc I called a lib was mean to me :'("

In fact, he considers any alternative than capitalist liberal democracy as “fascism” and would support even violent paramilitary suppression of such.

lmao

Because I regard elections as preferable to a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines? Bolshevik lines being, in the case that we discussed, quite literally the dissolution of a leftist democratic government the year before?

Nothing like supporting the Vanguard Party suppressing democratic elections to really be a good anarchist, huh?

Astounding that you prefer the taste of boot leather to the horrible position of opposing genocide.