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Plebcouncilman

@ Plebcouncilman @sh.itjust.works

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  • Even if it were human diversity there would be a biological root to it. That’s different from a political view. Regressives aren’t born regressive, they become regressives through their particular life experiences. Just like progressives aren’t born progressives.

    If the psychological effects of dysphoria were a simply a matter of acceptance then I posit that with acceptance the need to transition would dissipate entirely.

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  • I’m familiar with this. It doesn’t really contradict what I’m saying. The vast majority of humans are born with either a penis or a vagina, and they feel generally comfortable with what they have and it doesn’t cause them significant psychological distress. It doesn’t matter if they have certain traits of the other sex, in fact I think it’s almost obvious that it will be the case since we are sexless at conception. Therefore we have all the equipment to be either sex. Men with manboobs are everywhere. Most of them might feel self conscious about it due to standards of beauty but usually not in a way that it causes suffering to the same level as gender dysphoria.

    In fact I think this article might actually further my point, because if we exist all in a spectrum why would a small percentage of us associate so strongly with one particular gender to the point that not having the primary characteristics of that gender ends up causing significant psychological distress? My view is that a neurological divergence could be responsible for the dysphoria. Or at least that it should be seriously considered and investigated.

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  • I don’t know what is wrong with what I said but ok.

  • Open-source fonts?

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  • Don’t have an answer to this, but I did dump my adobe subscription recently so I’ll be following with great interest.

  • OpenAI supremo Sam Altman says he 'doesn't know how' he would have taken care of his baby without the help of ChatGPT

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  • Through surrogacy. He’s gay.

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  • And you got that from me making an observation about how other people feel about T people in society? Cool but inaccurate.

    I guess I could be perceived as centrist because I’m not entirely on board with any of the agendas or ideologies but I’m sure most conservatives would consider me a progressive. Realist progressive feels like the term but I don’t think that means what I think it means.

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  • That makes sense. But does that mean that if transgender individuals had support then they would have no need to transition at all?

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  • Guess we should fund the research then!

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  • Sure, if left handed people committed suicide at a much higher rate than right handed people because their brains cannot cope with living in a left handed body as a right handed brain we should be looking how to treat them,

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  • I think opposing research into potential treatments and further understanding of any condition is an unreasonable position to take.

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  • I find it equally strange that you would oppose that the option even be there. Or that the research be made at all. It’s not an either or thing, we can do the research and use the best available methods in the present to help you at the same time. And maybe even put some research into improving plastic surgery, hormonal treatments etc. I think all avenues should be fully explored and invested into. But trans activists seem to believe that there’s only one proper avenue and all others are damned. I reject that notion entirely, because it’s simply not in the spirit of good science.

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  • I think the working class is down with LGBT until the Ts are in the same teams as their girls and in the same bathrooms their wives but ok, if you believe that fine.

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  • Well for one a lot of people transition but they don’t “pass” and this still causes them significant mental stress. What if they had another option that was just as valid and viable? Isn’t the point solving the mental distress caused by the incongruence?

    More choices are never a bad thing.

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  • You’re being intellectually dishonest. If someone is born with 4 fingers in one hand, we know it’s a defect. If someone is born without genitals we know it’s a defect. Especially if it affects their proper functioning.

    If there was nothing wrong with transgender people they wouldn’t suffer great psychological pain and they wouldn’t require extensive medical treatment in order to physically align themselves with their perceived self in such a way that is not possible without modern day medicine. If this was not a medical condition of some sort there would be a biological adaptation that allowed people to change ther genitalia like many animals do.

    But look I won’t engage in this argument further, once the mental gymnastics and the picking and twisting of every word starts I’m out. It’s not arguing in good faith, it’s simply turtling up to avoid engaging with the self evident realities.

    I know why you do it, but it’s not gonna help in the long run.

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  • Well I never said that populism necessarily led to desirable outcomes. I said that progressives keep the pretense of being a popular movement when it really isn’t. It’s a technocratic movement, but admitting that is political suicide so it keeps the veneer of populism. But the working class can see that they are not welcome in the movement because they are “uneducated, bigots, racists etc” as soon as they disagree with a single point in the agenda so who are you really appealing to by saying you are of the people for the people? Probably yourselves because no one else buys it.

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