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  • Are you not aware that poor people have smartphones these days? Back in my day being poor meant having absolutely nothing. I say we take their phones away and their shoes too for good measure. That way they’ll know what true poverty is like /s

  • That was what Trump campaigned on wasn’t it? So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.

    I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.

  • Well to be fair they also know democrats only say they will fix the issue and then immediately do the same things the republicans do because they just cannot do without that sweet corporate cheddar.

    I figure their logic is that at least the republicans are honest about it.

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  • Ah good point. I can see that now. Well no I don’t hold that view.

    To explain myself I’m very critical of current progressive “orthodoxy” because it tries to pass itself as populist when it is in fact technocratic. The end result is that it looks like a very dishonest movement. My view is that the progressive movement needs to come to terms with the fact that it is technocratic, and that it cannot ever be populist if it retains its current ideology. This also means it won’t win elections in the near future.

    On the other hand if it wants to win elections it needs to become more of a socialist workers movement but that will mean compromise in the trans right movement because the vast majority of transphobic people are of the working class.

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  • Absolutely not. Did I say I thought thought that trans people should be excluded from bathrooms? Or did I say that the working class doesn’t like when trans people use their bathrooms?

  • New protected minority just dropped!

  • I’m 100% for technological advancement and even AI.

    They will have to rip my fucking eyes out before I let them scan them with this thing.

  • Meh, she also does her makeup like a grandma I wonder if that’s on purpose to appear conservative?

  • But is ripped more or less than smacked down? We need a chart people.

  • Proof that stupids are stupids no matter their politics.

    Edit: Yikes.

  • Get ready because you’re about to get dragged through the streets for stating simple common sense. We don’t like winning elections around these parts.

  • Saying someone’s is successful is not a moral judgement or approval of their character. Sam Altman is successful, Elon Musk is successful, all of these billionaires that built companies that have changed the world for better or wrong are all successful. This in no way means that I’m saying they’re good people or even that they are people that should be emulated or any other sort of moral judgement.

  • Anything is debatable. I could debate that the sky is not blue of if I wanted to. I’m debating you right now.

    He is successful by the metrics in which society measures success and that’s all I meant by that.

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  • I know what a priori means and I think I sufficiently established that I in fact made my statement regarding regressives with a posteriori reasoning. But that’s neither here nor there, because all you are doing is deflecting and moving goalposts to discredit me.

    Here’s the damning thing for you. First of all your arguments are empty appeals to authority, not once have you provided any proof that discredits the argument that there might be a neurological cause to some instances of transgender identity or that it is not a valid line of inquiry, while I have with links to a study that suggests there is validity to it and I could produce one or two more if you wanted them. You have not even directed me to a source that could prove me wrong, all you’ve said is “the experts decided this already and they are right for all of eternity and the matter will not be investigated any more” despite the fact that this line of inquiry has not been in fact seriously undertaken and therefore has not been proven or disproven. All because you’re afraid. It’s ridiculous and transparently dishonest to anyone and you know it but admitting it would mean breaking ranks with the movement because you are all terrified of what could happen if there indeed was a neurological difference in transgender individuals. Which is understandable but not rational, and in fact impedes the development and improvement of treatments.

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  • No one is born with any ideology, because ideologies are passed on socially. I’m open to the idea that there might be a predisposition to accepting conservative or regressive policy based on some neurological factors, why not? I’ve seen some studies thrown around to suggest that. But to claim that anyone can be born with any ideology does not pass any common sense, logical or empirical test. If that were the case people would be unable to change their stances, but people change ideology many times in their lives. Sometimes subtly other times in big ways. Depending what life throws at them.

    Happy? Does that make me qualified to discuss this in good faith with you?

    But you know what yes, you are right in one thing I am saying that there’s something that maybe could be fixed. It’s up to the individual to accept the fix if one were to exist. I’m not suggesting that this is a settle thing, but rather something that we should look into. I could be completely wrong, but we don’t know that because no one will fund this line of inquiry.

    And I do not necessarily think that it applies to all cases of gender dysphoria either. Some might have purely social causes, other might be caused by a mix of genetics and social (as the case with intersex persons).

    My problem is that this is seen as some kind of heresy and the door is absolutely barred to even exploring the notion of a pathological cause to some cases of gender dysphoria. At a logical level I understand the defensiveness, but it’s just not intellectually honest.

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  • I did not decide anything just because, I don’t know if you can see all my replies here but in all of them I have substantiated my claims with logical reasoning where scientific evidence is not available due to a distinct lack of research in that direction.

    I also posted one study that suggests some basis to my argument https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34030966/

    I’m of saying there’s something to fix, but there’s something that can be treated. Are we fixing adhd people when we give them adderal or are we helping them live a better life? They can choose not to medicate, or to take different avenues of medication like sound therapy etc. Why is it outrageous to suggest that some transgender individuals might have a neurological issue that could be treated with either transition or whatever medical treatment that might come from such a line of inquiry?

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  • I would have to write a book to explain that.

    This is issue is one example. Another is that I think capitalism is not the root of all evil, but rather that it is necessary to create the conditions for socialism. We need to blunt it with regulations and through public funding of essential things like health and education. I reject the communist and anarchistic notion of a stateless society because it’s simply not a possible thing.

    I obviously believe that socialism is a desirable end goal for society so that already puts me at odds with most of the right. I agree that abortion is murder after 8 weeks because it is a human life at that point, but I do not think that life itself is valuable but that rather the quality of life is the most valuable thing, so abortion should be legal because I can’t imagine a worst life than that of a kid who is not loved by their mother. I don’t believe in making any substances illegal, because eliminating the supply when there’s demand only creates issues, so every drug should be legal, manufactured professionally, and taxed to hell to pay for anti drug advertising and rehab programs.

    That’s a quick overview of the big issues we’re im not completely on board with either side. There’s many more but man I’ve written a lot today.