When you’ve been trained to treat the word “politics” like a dirty word not to be spoken in polite company, then you limit yourself to a level of political literary equivalent of what ever gets past your rejection of the topic like a trojan horse, like for example, “entertainment” out of liberal CIAwood. A liberal that doesn’t treat the word as dirty and that does actually learn about it, has there own CIA provided words, and CIA provided fictions, only they believe those fictions real, and their words as the height of the science of politics. The willfully ignorant liberals have less that needs correcting because they know less in general, but are more resistant to even listening, while the miseducated liberals have more that needs correcting but aren’t as resistant to listening, getting them to actually change their viewpoint and stop defending the system is another story.

I ran this through google translate and got “I’m looking forward to seeing you there”, but I don’t understand what that means in the context of my comment that this is a reply too, is maybe google translate a bad option for translation? I’m not sure what a better translator is and I’m open to a better one if I can get a link for it.

我用谷歌翻译试了一下，结果显示是“我很期待在那里见到你”，但我不太明白这句话放在我原本那条评论的语境下是什么意思——难道谷歌翻译不太好用吗？我也不清楚哪个翻译工具更好，如果能提供链接的话，我很乐意尝试一下更好的工具。

The Capitalists had been well prepared in advance, they were pushing and pushing, surrounding Russia with missles, ETC, such that it was only a matter of time before Russia would need to act to protect itself, since the populace of Capitalist countries had been successfully kept completely in the dark about that building situation, they were well prepared to paint Russia’s actions as out of nowhere, sudden and vile “those evil evil Russians”, they showed manufactured atrocity propaganda and went into overdrive with, stuff like, taking things that the azov/keiv regime did to donbas or simular, and passing it off as stuff Russia did to the ukraine for example.

On top of that, the more emotionally supported a belief is, the more painful it is to acknowledge that it is wrong, since the atrocity propaganda had so traumatized liberals, and since they got so drawn into emotionally supporting what turns out to be a fascist state color revolutioned in by the US, facing just how badly they were made the fool, and their emotions played like a fiddle, for many liberals, facing that is brutal, so they go into denial instead, it is one reason why they may support the Palestinians, but condemn Russia.

It wasn’t long ago that I was reading news out of China about popular support in China for Iran’s fight against US Imperialism, they (people, not the state) were trying to send financial aid to help the Iranian’s against the US that has been bombing them, 1.4 Billion people is a lot of people, there are going to be liberals, there are going to be all kinds of socialists full of all kinds of errors, making all kinds of mistakes, that does not however mean they are a majority. Also important, it is not a popularity contest, something is not true or not based on popularity, unless that something is “is this thing popular?”, that applies to the non-imperialist status of Iran and Russia, even if there are wrong ideas out there that say otherwise, as also that is applies to the Science of Socialism, which is not determined by popularity on whether or not it is true, unless the question itself is of if this thing is popular.

Edit: Seems Cowbee is probably right with it being a translation issue, as “the truth is on the side of the proletariat, not on the side of any government or capitalist.” doesn’t seems to go against what we are saying, or the concept of critical support.

“the truth is on the side of the proletariat, not on the side of any government or capitalist.”

I’m fortunate enough to have therapy covered by medicaid/medicare (I have both, I forget which one covers it), but on that topic I need to cut the conversation here, I feel uncomfortably close to bringing up something that I’m only prepared to bring up during therapy, where I can use EMDR to process what comes up, thank you for sharing, but also let’s leave it here.

Probable fed says “Please, remain small and easily crushed, if you build international working class solidarity and mutual aid connections it will be too hard to crush you!” under an anarchist aesthetic of “all states are bad and bed times are authoritarian!” (sorry if this comes off as offensive, it is meant more as a joke about the whole “countries I’ve been told are bad are authoritarian, and since I don’t understand the concept of authority, I not only think that only the “bad countries” are that way, but also that it is inherently bad thing to even be” thing)

I’ve told my own parents that, almost word for word, especially with my mom, who was thrown out of a moving car by one of her parents in childhood, and it’s stuff like that that reminds me, for all the pain I had in my own childhood, they did an amazing job at not being like their own parents, and doing what little they know how to do to deal with a broken child carrying a horrible trauma nobody at the time knew about, the ways Capitalism, and the tools they use against us, such as religion under Capitalism, torture, kill and under-develop us (and SA, but that is a difficult topic for me) are many in variation and intensity.

I’d think of it a bit like, teaching mathematics, so, provide examples, walk them through them, basically show them how to think in a Dialectical and Historical Materialist way, and encourage them to practice using it to better understand reality, and maybe throw in bits about history, philosophy, political economy ETC. You could give them some books to read (at their level) and then provide encouragement, maybe they get a special treat if they can demonstrate they understand the books content, and if you talk about such regularly at, you might encourage them to want to know more on their own so they can discus at a higher level with you, or even to show off what they’ve learned or something, what ever keeps them learning.

Edit: “regularly at home”

I think you need both, like you said, if you are not kind and patient with them they may rebel against you and what you tell them, but at the same time they would benefit from a solid Theoretical Foundation, make fewer unnecessary mistake, spend less time re-inventing the wheel.

It is kind of like the Dialectic between Theory and Practice, where as you need Practice to develop correct Theory, you need correct Theory to engage in higher quality Practice, which can also enable the development of more advanced Theory, leading to more advanced Practice, point is they need to be put together, and I think raising a child correctly is the same way, they need love and support, but also to learn the important things that school is setup to teach the opposite of.

Your environment is not neutral, if you live in a Capitalist country, they will be dragged along the Liberal path without even being aware of it, in order to actually “have a choice” they’d need to be taught Communism (Marxism Leninism specifically because it is scientific, Communism is not a religion), or they would even have the ability to “choose” in the first place.

Additionally, this question is a bit like “should I teach my kid about the deadly snakes hiding under that rock over there or should I let them find out for themselves?” This stuff isn’t like choosing what color you want your car, there are objectively correct and incorrect answers, and the consequences are deadly serious.

Edit: “wouldn’t even have the ability”

I am not aware of how I am treating it like gospel (perhaps because my childhood trauma had to do with religion and set me like a fire against it, I don’t understand “gospel” in the first place), my fears and paranoia are not related to Theory in that way, thanks to the conditions of my mental health and trauma and life difficulties and so on, all before I ever read anything, so that error had more to do with my fear and paranoia mental patterns popping up and taking over without me realizing I was, and so became primary and attempts to make sure I wasn’t messing up in some way by remember Theory I’ve read, secondary, other comments were more helpful.

This thread has made me realize, while my main thinking for trying to actually talk to people online was to fight social anxiety so I could do more in real life too, it seems it also gives opportunity to practice self improvement as a Communist as well, thanks.

Edit: and also to realize that overcoming my childhood trauma isn’t just something to do for my own sake, but actually necessary for the path of being a Communist, as it is that trauma that drives my paranoia so high and makes me so inclined to listen to it, I must finish addressing it to remove the biggest part of me still clinging to liberalism, so maybe that key that I’m looking for simply can’t be found in Theory alone, but needs something like talking in this community to find. I was thinking of Practice as only this thing that happens in the streets, but that may have been far to much of a mechanical and narrow understanding of Practice, I already knew I needed Practice to go with Theory but thinking it had to be in the streets created a “chicken and egg” sort of scenario as I can’t yet bring myself to do that, so I need to find it here first, like training wheels when learning to ride a bike.

I thought I was avoiding that by focusing on just the icon and banner, but I realize now that I may have been ingauging in another form of liberalism by trying to treat the icon and banner in isolation in the first place, as things only make sense within the context of how they interrelate with other things, not taken in isolation.

Thank you for your criticism, I will try to learn from this.

Maybe, sometimes my paranoia can get the best of me, so I must remain careful of that about myself, even so, every time I look at that symbol my “fight or flight” response goes crazy, sometimes ones instincts protects oneself, sometimes it gets in the way.

Edit: I think I figured something out about it, rather than it being the use of fascist symbols it might be the other way around, that fascists are co opting nature symbols as a part of their reactionary thinking, as reactionary thinking is that which is in support of going backwards, of stopping the new thing, that they would cling to old symbolism, but Native Americans are still behind the oppressive wall of colonialism in the US, so what is reactionary for a fascist, may actually be progressive for a Native American.

I haven’t read much about US colonialism and Native Americans yet (the result of my bad coping mechanism that makes me want to run away from horrors close to home, and preference to learn about nicer things far away, like China), or else I might have known sooner.

Notice anything funny about the channels icon and banner? It looks like someone tried to shove as many Fascist/Nazi symbols into one spot as possible, but also obscure their nature as well, sort of crypto fascists style. So even before looking any deeper I already don’t trust anything about it. The lightning bolt (and the wing looks like another), the sort of “black sun” jagged triangles on the left, the iron crosses, the rain clouds (IE stormfront), even the flowers (anarchist rose), and rainbow (CIA uses minority rights as an excuse to invade), and finally the bird (like the use of the eagle), makes me think there is no way it is accidental.

Edit: I don’t actually know anything about the group, I only didn’t want to engage in the liberalism of saying nothing when noticing something suspicious, I’d been re reading Combat Liberalism recently and I’ve been worried it was something I’d be doing

Dam, I gotta get around to reading that one, looks really good. I’ve got it as a pdf sitting in a big folder full of based resources, but I’ve got such a backlog to go through. I’ve got to get myself to stop procrastinating so much, I wont be satisfied if I don’t read it all, it is like my own brain is in a constant state of fighting itself and I’m certain somewhere in all of this Theory lies the key to finally getting it to stop infighting, I just haven’t found more than hints yet.

China is actually working on all three at once: wearable, under the skull but not in the brain (think closer electrode, without skull, skin and hair in the way), and in the brain, each of the three has pros and cons, so it makes sense to work on all as that way you can take only the amount of risk as the need for the device justifies.

There is that and then there is the fact that the US and co almost certainly wants a literal Mind-Control device no matter what they claim, but China actually wants the Mind to remain in Control rather than Controlled, and the focus is on medical advancements for human benefit. The US will charge an arm and a leg for such, but medical purposes (or rather Medical Expenses) is secondary to how the Capitalists use anything and everything to maintain control over humanity and remove threats to their hegemonic control of the world.

An example of the US use case is in how they took “Alligator Alcatraz” Concentration Camp victims and used them for Neuralink experimentation.

Edit: I guess it would be more accurate to say that control and ending perceived threats is primary when in emergency and profit secondary, but when not in emergency IE when Capitalism doesn’t feel threatened, then profit remains primary instead, a Dialectic between control and profit with one switching with the other for primary status depending on sense of threat.

Edit 2: And since Capitalists are not a hivemind of identical drones, some will be more or less feeling threatened than others at any given time, and so while some are ringing alarm bells and throwing everything at the wall to protect against perceived threats, even at the expense of profit, others will take advantage of such a situation to drive profit higher, even when it gets in the way and makes the crisis of Capitalism worse, and so they fight amongst themselves over profiteering or measures to maintain control, and we all stand back and watch and laugh at the parasite clown show as they can’t fully organize themselves over their own greed and short sightedness, and the CPC of the PRC plays them like a fiddle while the US deludes themselves into thinking they are still winning with endless copes as the empire continues to degrade. HA HA HA HAA!

Get her to read “Left wing Communism an Infantile Disorder” by Lenin

I saw that newer video by boy boy, the over an hour long video about Cuba, it was such an emotional rollercoaster ride I couldn’t help but cry, it was beautiful.

It’s not so much the medium itself as it is the content of that medium, in a Capitalist system it will be contaminated with the various toxins of that system, sometimes very deliberately.

In a healthy system, like one of the stages of socialism for example, it is far easier for it to be made healthy, will be increasingly encouraged to do so, and if it’s too toxic it may even get the axe.