The electoral system will be fixed if Trump wins. He will just dissolve it and end the election process. Voila! Reform!

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Yeah so the message so far has been carte Blanche vote third party. None of the nuance you’re displaying here is evident in 99% of these 3rd party posts. They’re all “genocide BAD, vote 3rd party or you’re COMPLICIT!” so the message here isnt what you’re saying.

Secondly, applying your logic regarding wasted effort because your state is solid blue, telling others to write their congresspeople on the issue is equally useless. Throwing the onus on them is shortsighted. The, “what have YOU done” argument doesn’t really hold water with anyone, particularly when many people reside in a solid red or blue state

Finally, voting 3rd party sends “a” message after the election, not during, and no candidate ever looks back at the election results to ask Greenies why they didn’t vote for them. They do canvassing before and during, and quite frankly they have to walk a tightrope between courting lefties and every other single-issue voter. Imagine you’re running and you have Greenies yelling about genocide, women’s rights yelling about bodily autonomy, and LGBTQ folks yelling about equality and all three don’t give a flying fuck about the others. What would you do? Exactly what Harris is doing - courting the biggest blocs of voters.

I’m not gonna touch on the general laziness of my compatriots, but when I went to early vote at my precinct there were a lot of people voting straight ticket, so I don’t think most people will dig through ballots to send that message. Frankly, Trump in power means nothing for down ballot votes because he still installs a fascist regime.

I think it’s the 3rd party voters here that are implying that.

This is such a backward comment I don’t know where to start. Tortured logic, the fact that voting 3rd party doesn’t send the specific message you’re looking to send, or perhaps that it’s all Harris’ fault that she lost while ignoring everything about outside election interference including Stein’s ties to Russia and conservatives all in one post. Bonus points for projecting that a large death of her base cares solely about Gaza and would be willing to suffer fascism instead.

Can’t wait until these astroturfing accounts are retired after the election.

Just like 3rd party candidates come around every 4 years

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I’d imagine they have enough munitions and suppliers for it not to matter, and doing so will simply deteriorate relations, causing the US to hold less sway with its one ally in the region.

Nah, that’s too nuanced - just don’t give them guns and they’ll stop.

How so?

Who controls the House? That’s a better barometer of change but having a supportive president is paramount. Either have control of the house and overwhelming control of the Senate, or enough control of both that a friendly President signs the bill into law.

Why hasn’t Biden done it already? Mike Johnson.

You answered the prescient question - “months.” They need to work a base down ballot first so they can actually get anything done in Congress. No one wants to do the groundwork and thinks if we just elect a 3rd party candidate in the highest office everything else will follow.

Wat a pipe dream.

Yeah, good thing I’m not a single-issue voter with a vote to waste.

Is there a single post in your history where you don’t spew absolut bullshit?

Every post of yours is unfounded garbage about how Democrats are complicit or working with the GOP to do some nefarious thing.

Here’s an unfounded claim for you: you’re full of shit and a foreign agent trying to sway votes for fascism.

Yeah let’s downplay EVERYTHING ELSE she’s campaigned on and redefine democratic excitement to be focused solely on Palestine, and yeah you’re right.

Yeah, see, I think they have polled Democrats and have probably found it’s not a winning strategy, whether by number of possible voters gained vs lost, or ranked importance of the issues.

I think they recognize the backlash of losing the democratic Jewish vote is larger than the gain of standing on principle on a difficult diplomatic situation that the public doesn’t have the attention span to follow. Undecided voters are typically low-info voters, so a dissertation on the Middle East situation is a no-go.

Don’t get me wrong, I think what Israel is doing is genocide and we shouldn’t support it, but I also understand if voters in America care more about not getting evicted, going bankrupt, bodily autonomy, or food security more so than a conflict half way around the world.

Also this is on-line with our stance in WW2 prior to Pearl Harbor - we didn’t want to fight an active war despite knowing about the genocide occurring.

I disagree. Your voice is your vote, no? So you’re going to speak on Nov 5th without giving anyone a chance to respond, thus letting Trump be elected?

If not Nov 5th with your vote, then surely all of these antiwar types are protesting in the street and pinging their reps about it?

You know I voted for Harris.

Sure, bud. I know I can’t verify that but I doubt it. You wouldn’t wholly support genocide like you’re accusing others of, would you? 🙄

A little too obvious trolling. Gotta time it down a bit if you’re gonna sell the con.

What a lazy take.

What other options are there in a FPTP system?

Man, I feel like this comment doesn’t take the election process in America into account. Sure you could vote 3rd party and have a clean conscience, but it’s at the cost of the worst of two options gaining power.