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  • To be clear - the "leftists" I mentioned above aren't really leftists. Next time I'll add the /s next to it to be clear. The whole point of the post was to call out bad faith actors.

    Then you came in missing the point.

    Now as I understand it, you're suggesting I word my posts better so you catch the sarcasm?

    Nah, fam. Thanks though.

  • Thanks for telling me what my point was, dipshit.

  • Yeah, super ignorant take that purported lefties on Lemmy are playing spoiler under the guise of condemning genocide.

    The post was for astroturfing fucks on Lemmy. Way to miss the point.

  • Absolutely no disagreement there. I don't condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I'm not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

  • C'mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won't be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, "he's doing a good job" as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

    C'mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

  • Yeah alright fam. Whatever floats your boat.

  • It's pretty straightforward - if they vote for Trump and Trump gives Israel the go ahead to wipe out all Palestinians then the ones here that voted for that got what they asked for. Pretty simple.

  • Nope.

  • If they don't vote for anyone then I understand and sympathize. If they vote for ultra-genocide to spite Democrats then they get what they asked for.

  • I mean, for starters this argument states as fact a number of points that are questionable. Sure, I'll grant the US holds Israel up as a strategic point in the Middle East. We do the same around the world and so do other nations in support of the same. Russia did/does the same thing with Cuba, for instance.

    The rest of the argument about petrodollars, economics, one-state solutions, and IMF loans is conspiracy theory and conjecture masqueraded as fact. One book about it doesn't make it true. It's not worth disproving because the poster is gish-galloping garbage.

  • Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

  • I really think you should, fam.

  • You responded to the previous poster quoting something they never said and your answer doesn't follow the conversation. JFC read your own comment chain before being an ass.

  • Whew the tankies and astroturfers are out in force in these comments. I think we got the gamut going here:

    1. "I don't vote for genocide"
    2. "A vote for 3rd party isn't a vote for Trump"
    3. "If we don't vote 3rd party nothing will change"
    4. "Jill Stein isn't a Russian asset"
    5. "Who cares if Trump wins; they're both bad / nothing worse will happen l both sides"
    6. "I literally don't understand how Trump can win if I vote 3rd party because I don't understand the difference between voting for and against a candidate"
    7. "Liberals / Democrats / Harris voters are the real fascists"

    Solid work astroturfers! Glad to see you're still trotting out these arguments despite plenty of Lemmy users discrediting each and every one. Really shows grit and dedication.

    Also, calling it now that at least one of them replies with something about how they're true / haven't been discredited.

  • From my experience in my very red state, there's a high degree of cognitive dissonance when it comes to those things. A family friend who's very religious is secretly undergoing IVF even though the church banned it's use because they want a child more than the threat of excommunication. Supposedly they'll be forgiven for going against the church since they're "fundamentally good" people.

  • Nah, holding your vote appears to be you just being another unmotivated democratic voter without regard to why. No one gets polled on why they didn't vote 4 years prior. At best Harris barely wins and at worst Trump takes office and you get 4 years of genocide + Ukrainian subjugation + subjugation of women, minorities, and immigrants at home.

    Kind of a no-brainer that you should vote for Harris here.

  • Don't come to Lemmy for math proofs, particularly in a political conversation. What an obtuse statement.