• ikt@aussie.zone
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    4 days ago

    The US ended that with no plan on how Cuba would cope

    fight for their land and stop leaving it as refugee’s?

    more and more I’m against immigration as it’s seems to give the people an easy out, instead of fighting for land just leave and talk shit about it from afar

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      4 days ago

      Sure has gone well for the Palestinians that refused to be evicted from their homes by an internationally supported military settler colony

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        4 days ago

        same thing, palestinians leave gaza and thus it’s ruled by islamic state dictators, when people do stand up they get tortured

        if all the people willing to fight for it leave the only people who remain support the nutters in power and that’s how you end up with oct 7th

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          …Do you think the Palestinians have the right to vote in Israel’s elections?

          Like do you genuinely believe that they are permitted rights when the knesset calls them subhumans, rats, goyim and amalek then celebrate with champagne when a death penalty exclusively for palestinians is passed into law?

          You end up with october 7th when a settler colony murders millions over the course of 70 years through poisoning of water sources, restriction of food, water, medical aid, forced sterilisation, restriction of movement, destruction of crops and homes, and the killing of every man woman and child that refuses to be evicted from their family land for the sake of israeli apartments.

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            …Do you think the Palestinians have the right to vote in Israel’s elections?

            Yes, Palestinians who hold Israeli citizenship—often referred to as Palestinian citizens of Israel or Arab Israelis—have the same voting rights as any other Israeli citizen. This includes the right to vote in Knesset (parliamentary) elections starting at age 18. They have had this right since the first Israeli elections in 1949legalclarity.org+1.

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              3 days ago

              And how many of them have voted for their homes to be bombed or for the wholesale slaughter of their families to continue?

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                3 days ago

                Their homes are in Israel not Gaza

                This is like shitty geopolitics

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                  Because Gaza is the only place that has ever been bombed in the history of Palestine, of course, how could I have ever been so foolish as to think you’d understand how settler colonies worked.

                  And you say my geopolitics is shitty

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          3 days ago

          Oh, I see now. You’re a troll, not serious. I should have read through before responding in other places. At least I didn’t take the rage bait.

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      I can see where this thought can seem plausible, but you need to think it through. You will find it isn’t plausible and is unreasonable. Also, many will consider it crass and cruel.

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        3 days ago

        🤣 well at least you wouldn’t be a refugee and can actually stand up for yourself

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          Or you’d be dead - by political action, disease,or starvation. Pick your poison. It isn’t all “refugees are wimps” or “refugees are leeches”.

          Think of them as human, and things make more sense. ( Not accusing you of bad additude, just making the counterpoint)

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            3 days ago

            Or you’d be dead

            Yes I am aware of this, if I was in Palestine I would have my head rolling down a hill because I called Mohamad a violent pedophile :)

            But I wouldn’t necessarily be angry at the nutty Muslims, I’d be more angry and the ones who ran away instead of helping me fight

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      The people not the land matter. Survival is what we fight for.

      I’ve seen enough of the willing die I could never imagine asking the scared and unwilling to if they have an option for escape.