My parents are boomers and they want these things. And most people in their circles are the same. So I really get annoyed when I see this sentiment online, especially on Lemmy where you’d think people would know better. A lot of MAGA support is coming from younger people. Why do you think that Kirk dickhead was at college campuses, not retirement homes. These are people who are not anti vax because they grew up with polio. They support unions because they have seen them work.
Eh, plenty of Boomers will say they want those things but then shoot down any attempts at them as “not the right way”. These are the kinds of people who showed up to the Democratic primaries in 2020 and voted for Joe Biden. If they really wanted these things they’d vote in the primaries for politicians who are fighting for them.
Eh, plenty of younger people will say they want those things but then decide not to vote for the Democrat candidate who made it as the nominee because they didn’t pass some purity test. And that hands power to the fascists.
I voted for Biden. And Clinton. And Harris. In the general election, because not doing so was a vote for fascism. I also voted for different people in the primaries because that was my chance to vote for a progressive.
Imagine that before you stand two candidates. One of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but does occasionally manage to also support human rights. The other of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but also is working to break our democracy and replace it with fascism.
Those are your two options.
If you decide not to vote for the first one because they support genocide, then you are lending your support to fascism.
I would hope you would have supported a better candidate earlier in the process, but the point is that when faced with the final voting options, many people withdraw from voting because they don’t like the candidate that is of the party that they would support if they did like them.
And so the fascists win that voter’s voting power, essentially.
Worth noting that I’m not talking about earlier in the process because the above scenario is an extremely simplified version of what our options have mostly been.
To be clear, you’re trying to deflect blame away from people who show up to the Democratic primaries to vote for strike blocking, genocide supporting geriatrics yes?
Apparently you do. Reload this thread and see my answer to the other person who can’t manage to understand context.
Your comment was off the wall enough that I didn’t feel I needed to grace it with a clarifying reply, but since I did write one - intended really to help the both of you - I posted it in reply to them, but perhaps it will help you understand slightly better.
No you’re pretending not to understand the question because it’s calling out your behavior for what it is. Boomers caused this mess. Boomers continue to cause this mess. Stop making excuses for them. Stop trying to deflect blame elsewhere.
As with any generation, many of the people who were teens in the 60s did not like the depression- and war-torn, conformist, society they grew up in, They had much different values and music and politics and approaches to life. Yes … today they’d be called democratic socialists, they showed up for Sanders’ tour. They don’t watch what Mideas Touch calls the ‘Regime Media’. The Repubs are running scared about the midterms, for a good reason.
Thinking everyone in an earlier generation is to blame for anything today is wrong-headed and the result of just not knowing enough about history.
I’m a boomer and want those things.
My parents are boomers and they want these things. And most people in their circles are the same. So I really get annoyed when I see this sentiment online, especially on Lemmy where you’d think people would know better. A lot of MAGA support is coming from younger people. Why do you think that Kirk dickhead was at college campuses, not retirement homes. These are people who are not anti vax because they grew up with polio. They support unions because they have seen them work.
Eh, plenty of Boomers will say they want those things but then shoot down any attempts at them as “not the right way”. These are the kinds of people who showed up to the Democratic primaries in 2020 and voted for Joe Biden. If they really wanted these things they’d vote in the primaries for politicians who are fighting for them.
Eh, plenty of younger people will say they want those things but then decide not to vote for the Democrat candidate who made it as the nominee because they didn’t pass some purity test. And that hands power to the fascists.
I voted for Biden. And Clinton. And Harris. In the general election, because not doing so was a vote for fascism. I also voted for different people in the primaries because that was my chance to vote for a progressive.
The purity test of… not doing a genocide??
Imagine that before you stand two candidates. One of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but does occasionally manage to also support human rights. The other of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but also is working to break our democracy and replace it with fascism.
Those are your two options.
If you decide not to vote for the first one because they support genocide, then you are lending your support to fascism.
I would hope you would have supported a better candidate earlier in the process, but the point is that when faced with the final voting options, many people withdraw from voting because they don’t like the candidate that is of the party that they would support if they did like them.
And so the fascists win that voter’s voting power, essentially.
Worth noting that I’m not talking about earlier in the process because the above scenario is an extremely simplified version of what our options have mostly been.
Then the country deserves to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized. Sorry about your shitty situation. Death to America.
To be clear, you’re trying to deflect blame away from people who show up to the Democratic primaries to vote for strike blocking, genocide supporting geriatrics yes?
Wut
I didn’t stutter. Do you lack basic reading comprehension?
Apparently you do. Reload this thread and see my answer to the other person who can’t manage to understand context.
Your comment was off the wall enough that I didn’t feel I needed to grace it with a clarifying reply, but since I did write one - intended really to help the both of you - I posted it in reply to them, but perhaps it will help you understand slightly better.
Wow, so fucking smug, lol.
No you’re pretending not to understand the question because it’s calling out your behavior for what it is. Boomers caused this mess. Boomers continue to cause this mess. Stop making excuses for them. Stop trying to deflect blame elsewhere.
Yeah, I had relatives that grew up with polio, etc. They (and I) are very pro-vax!
As with any generation, many of the people who were teens in the 60s did not like the depression- and war-torn, conformist, society they grew up in, They had much different values and music and politics and approaches to life. Yes … today they’d be called democratic socialists, they showed up for Sanders’ tour. They don’t watch what Mideas Touch calls the ‘Regime Media’. The Repubs are running scared about the midterms, for a good reason.
Thinking everyone in an earlier generation is to blame for anything today is wrong-headed and the result of just not knowing enough about history.
Good, I’m glad you’re one of the decent ones.
Who did you vote for in the 2020 Democratic primaries?