The Liberal and Center-left media treated him as a conspiracy theorist at the time.

  • opiumfree@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    16·
    12 days ago

    in ww2 nazi germany had some propaganda posters that were just the word ”stupid” slapped on a photo of some disabled babies and back then that was cartoonishly evil but nowadays people saying disabled kids should be euthanized is just instagram, the internet is just so easy as a demoralizing/propaganda tool

  • Soot [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    10·
    12 days ago

    The military history of the internet is… very well documented. Computer networks existed all over the world and had thousands of uses at the same time. This is no surprise. I don’t see anyone having treated him as a conspiracy theorist.

      • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
        7·
        12 days ago

        A family member calls me “paranoid” for daring mention it. They are elderly and extremely abrasive. No friends because of it. A deeper look reveals something else: physically, mentally and very much emotionally fragile. Death increasingly nearer. A lifetime of voting and acting in myopic self-interest for the most expedient and expoditious route to their own bottom line this quarter (because that’s what successful businessmen do), nearly a century of time, energy and money spent being physically, verbally, emotionally, financially abusive as means to most expedient and expoditious ends. Only to live long enough to realize their own weapons begining to turn against themselves, and the longer they live, the moreso it happens.

        I’m not even angry at them for it (I am for the situation, though).

        Buddha said life is suffering because of ignorance. The situations we find ourselves in are saliently illustrative of that truth.

        Generation after generation making the same mistakes, as the situation steadily deteroriates, but it’s so slowly, it’s hidden from up close, immediate view. And as conditions deteriorate, there is less time for people trying to survive to step back for a larger view, and when there is, we’re so broken and dysregulated, without even knowing where to look for tools, let alone have them offered or easily accessible. I’m not angry at my fellow proletariats, anymore for being ignorant, because I’m guilty of the same things for many of the same reasons. Visceral frustration arises when we’d offer tools of liberation to have our offering, aching hands violently slapped away. But we either keep trying or give up. It takes grit, gumption, mastery over all parts of ourselves, and will to continue. But we must, if the dream is ever to be realized, if not for ourselves, those who come behind us.

        These people want us to give up. Their mantra is: resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

        My mantra, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment, when necessary is: choose you **this day ** whom you will serve. If I don’t choose, the choice is made anyway.

  • TabularTuxedo@lemmygrad.ml
    8·
    12 days ago

    Aight, just a honest question: are we fucked?

    Not exaggerating. I never thought that the Internet would be so entrenched in US MIC. Genuinely felt chills from this. I mean, how do you even fight this? I am optimistic about the future and I know that this isn’t an invincible enemy but I don’t know how a future revolution would happen under so much surveillance.

    • Saymaz@lemmygrad.mlOP
      12·
      11 days ago

      It was one of the biggest reasons why the Chinese created their domesticated internet instead of letting American telecomms build it for them.

      • TabularTuxedo@lemmygrad.ml
        8·
        11 days ago

        True. That decision really paid off. Honestly, I think that having a sovereign internet ecosystem is gonna be on par with having nukes as a prerequisite for a sovereign nation. We’ll have to see if other great powers are gonna ditch Statesian services in this century. Iran and Russia seem to be heading towards China’s path, at least.

    • p0ntyp00l@lemmygrad.ml
      9·
      11 days ago

      The scale of the panopticon is nauseating once you grasp how big it really is but at the end of the day computers are just plastic and metal. It’s the guys with guns who convert that information into brute force against us. But surveillance can’t magically absolve contradictions like labour and resource shortages, and it won’t somehow make capital invincible. They cling to this idea like medieval kings clung to the idea of alchemy creating the philosopher’s stone, giving them unlimited wealth and power apart from labour, and that was a fantasy.

      I think we have a tendency to view information and information technology as magical and having some kind of inherent power, but it’s just data at the end of the day. Literally everything comes from the working class, and when the majority of the working class decides to stop playing along (and they will because if capital was somehow able to somehow just stop wanting to parasitize the working class we wouldn’t be in this mess 500 years later), it simply won’t matter that they can doxx and punish whomever they want because you can’t throw an entire society in jail.

      So take heart. The calculus is the same; we may not live to see it, but they will lose, and we know that because historically they always do over a long enough time span. Their fancy toys don’t change the fundamental contradictions, and in fact present their own vulnerabilities that working class movements may exploit.

      • TabularTuxedo@lemmygrad.ml
        4·
        11 days ago

        Yeah. You are right. Capitalists do their best to make us believe that there is no hope of any better system even though they can’t stop creating their own gravediggers. Heck, USA had near total monopoly on power in the post-Soviet era and they managed to fuck it up.

        But as you said, technology seems “magical” in a way. It’s hard for me to remember that it isn’t.