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      3 days ago

      You’re allowed to be rude on the internet, dunno if you knew that.

      Kamala losing was Kamalas choice. She ran a campaign aimed at republicans and centrists, instead of, you know, her actual base of support.

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        it was also biden’s fault. If he knew he wasn’t going to run again, he should have stepped down and let Kamala show how capable she is or isn’t.

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        It’s literally the first rule of this community to not be a dick. Dunno if you knew that.

        Kamala took her base for granted, which is true. But those voters still chose to not show up just as they did with Hillary. It took a lot of people’s apathy to get where we are now. It wasn’t all just one person.

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          Right, if my 2 choices were for genocide, I’m voting 3rd party. Many many people feel the same way, and Kamala knew that, and decided to continue support for genocide, and try and appeal to republicans.

          The blame lies squarely on her and the Dem establishments shoulders.

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            Not only did she continue to support genocide but then also spent half her campaign trail parading around with the Cheneys.

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              I didn’t get one, despite the fact that there are global consequences to her failure as a candidate. I hope you’re satisfied having voted to further fund, support and continue a genocide.

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                Ah, your naive view of national politics in the US makes a lot more sense. As a presidential race goes on, candidates drop out and the pool shrinks until there are two viable choices.

                Your comforting scenario of rejecting this premise and voting for a third party has the potential to work on local and regional elections, as seen with recent DSA victories, but not for the POTUS. It’s sudden death, winner takes all. Americans had a choice between Kamala and Trump. The third option was not to vote and here we are now.

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                  Ah, your naive view of national politics in the US makes a lot more sense.

                  As a presidential race goes on, candidates drop out and the pool shrinks until there are two viable choices.

                  Can you list the pool of Democrats that we had to choose from in the 2024 presidential election since we’re so naive and you’re so enlightened? Who did you choose in the primary? Oh wait, there was no primary and we didn’t get to choose.

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                    The thing that I find worth remembering is that if she had won, we still wouldn’t get primaries in 2028 because you know she’s arrogant enough to run twice had she won the first time she ran. Just like Biden.

                    I for one am glad that there is now a real shot at having primaries in 2028

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                    You could make the case that Kamala was indirectly endorsed as if Biden had a stroke and died she would have became president, but you are right in that there wasn’t a primary. Though, that is besides my point.

                    Primaries and by-elections are precisely when voters should push for and elect third-party candidates. General elections are when people have to suck it up and vote for the least worst option. When people went to vote in the 2024 presidential election they had a choice between Kamala or Trump. Some people were just too prideful or spiteful and couldn’t do it.

                    Was the outcome of that election better for the long-term health of the country? Was foiling a DNC plot to avoid a primary worth losing the election? I don’t have those answers. I can only say that I am displeased with the current state of affairs.