PlayStation discs will soon be gone!
Wtf #sony ?
The #playstation account announced in a blog post that they will stop making game discs altogether. http://play.st/4v86Wg3
This means :
- No buying second hand. Once the game is not sold anymore nobody can buy it
- Can not bring the game to someone’s house and play together, now you need to log into your account
- Sony can, for any or no reason remove a game from your library
- If you paid extra for a PS5 with a disc drive, too bad, you can’t use the drive you paid extra for with games beyond 2028!
- Overall, a very slippery slope for ownership.
@StopKillingGames 's post on the issue : https://mastodon.social/deck/@StopKillingGames/116846124104426804
#gaming #stopkillinggames #games #preservation #digitalownership
In other news Linux on ps5 works on the phat and slim up to 7.61
I hope their sales reflect their stupid decision as a warning to other companies. As an Xbox guy, I guess I’ll be doing my part?
Microsoft is looking to boost Xbox profitability and Nintendo has allowed developers to sell blank cartridges, so I’m sure both of them will soon do the same while simultaneously increasing game prices.
This is just one more reason that I’ll add to my list as to why as soon as the Steam Machine is financially justifiable, I’ll be making the change.
I know it gets a lot of hate from people that build their own PC’s but I feel like they are missing something about the Steam Machine that makes it great… For console people, the Steam Machine is freedom from the bullshit games that Microsoft and Sony are playing. Do I still need to rely on digital downloads? Of course but they are mine actually downloaded to my HD just like a PC and I can get them from any source 🏴☠️!
The discs have been a joke for a long time anyway. The first time I put a disc in and then was immediately prompted for a software update, it felt like I was cosplaying. Like what’s even the point? Modern discs don’t do anything anyway.
They are a physical token of ownership mainly, which is very important as Sony has demonstrated that will happily remove content you’ve bought because licensing ran out. That’s a huge boundary to cross.
What makes you think they can’t take away your license to a physical copy? Concord anyone?
They totally could but that’s a hell of a line to cross. Not so much the online only stuff, but like literally everything? Why actually buy things at that point?
Its not just that they could. They already have. Guess you’d better stop buying.
yes? that’s pretty much what’s going on.
I don’t understand. You just suggested that they could but wouldn’t…
I think I’m a bit confused and I was probably a bit tired last night. To recap I think they are probably going down the line where eventually you’ll have games removed from your psn profile similar to how they removed the movies from licensing issues. I’m certainly not buying a new console while they are going down that road, no new games I don’t have physical ownership of the media it’s on.
Steam has a history of not removing things that you’ve already bought which I think is crazy important for consumer confidence. PlayStation feels like it’s shooting itself in the foot so hard with this, I have no idea why they think it’s a good idea. I mean obviously short-sighted money bullshit, but you’d think they’d understand the importance of long term planning with their 6th console.
Well, if you were connected to the internet, it likely had patches it wanted to download.
If you’re not connected to the internet, or refuse the patches (if possible), the disc should install and play. There are some games out there that don’t include the whole game on disc (minus previously mentioned patches, of course) but they are the minority afaik.
Games not being playable on a PS5 with a disc drive is a bit much. They have internal storage the same as all other PS5s. In addition, discs are essentially just physical licenses these days and have been since the late days of the PS4. Rarely is the game that’s on the actual disc playable. More often than not you need to install an update to make it playable, meaning even if you have the disc you are still relying on Sony to ensure the game can be played.
I don’t think this is excusable or acceptable, but I do think people are blowing it out of proportion. PC gaming has been digital only for well over a decade. This is no different.
In my opinion it is very different because if PS decides every game is now 120 euros you have no alternative. If Steam decides the same, you have all the other stores to compete. The open platform argument.
@Skyline969 I meant you won’t be able ti use the disc drive for that’s still being sold full price today for games beyond 2028. I edited the post to clear that up.
Also, PC gaming is digital but most of the times you have the game files downloaded somewhere, you can make a backup, and unless the game is online only you can theoratically play it forever.
With this, once Sony eventually takes down the store just like they did for the PS Vita, then you won’t be able to play games at all, and will very likely be the proud owner of a fancy black and white brick. They can also remove games from your library and this will make you unable to buy used games.
You can backup your digital games on a PS5 as well. Either to an internal SSD or to an external hard drive (though you can’t play PS5 games off an external drive). Maybe we hang with different crowds, but I do not know anyone who makes a habit of keeping installers for their PC games. They either have it downloaded on their games drive or it’s uninstalled, only to be reinstalled from the store they got it from.
Also, you can still download your games on the Vita. You can’t buy new ones but you can absolutely download all of your past purchases. Hell I believe that’s true of the PS3 and the PSP even, but I no longer have non-modified versions of those consoles to test that.
unless the game is online only you can theoratically play it forever.
Most games still have Steam DRM either way and you still need Steam at the very least to unlock the DRM at least once before you can run it offline. The only saving grace here is that with PC, the option to crack it is a lot more viable.
