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      Well, what he is forgetting is that the US and israel are not actually distinctly seperate entities. The settler colonial state would not exist with ouy the US war machine and the US global petrocracy wouldnt exist without israel destabilizing the region.

      That is why biden said in the 90s “if there were not an israel, the united states would have to create an israel to protect her interests in the region”

      its like if you were a settler in the 1800s trying to pretend that gold rush california wasnt entirely propped up by the US

      Sauce: https://youtu.be/86Nrv5izaTs

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        The US petrocracy would definitely exist without Israel. Israel has never added any value to the US Middle East plundering.

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          It is literally the start of the middle east plundering for the US and acts as a destabilizing force in the region. Please feel free to elaborate but your statement as is is historically and politically false

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            3 days ago

            Did Israel fight in the Iraq war? Afghanistan? Yemen? Egypt? Anything besides committing genocide in Palestine?

            Even in the Iran war, the US bases are doing everything and Israel is wasting all US interceptors.

            The guy in your sauce is the top AIPAC recipient of all time who destroyed US soft power for Israel. He is known as Genocide Joe. You think he has any reason to present Israel as something it’s not?

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    3 days ago

    Israel damn near OWNS the legislature of that powerful ally.

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    I’m still not believing any reports of drama between the US and Israel until some major observable, material change in conditions occurs.

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    every single us ally is gonna get thrown under the bus. every single treaty broken.

    at this point it’s your fault if they fuck you over.