• Base Arch can be fussy, but that’s because there’s a lot to set up, so many opportunities to forget things and only discover them later.

    I ran Artix on a laptop for about a year; that was a constant PITA, although I still value their goals.

    But EndeavourOS has been an entirely different matter. It’s a “just works” Arch derivative.

    I had so many fewer problems with Arch that I went through the effort to convert my 3 personal cloud servers from Debian to it. I went through a lot of work to replace thee default Mint on an ODroid to Arch, and it’s been so much better. I put Endeavor on the last two non-servers I installed. So, yes, I personally find out far more reliable and easier to work with than Ubuntu, Debian, or Mint.

    That said, I had dad install Mint on a new computer he bought because I had to do it over the phone and he never, ever, upgrades his packages, and almost never installs anything. If all I’m going to do is install it once and then never change anything, Mint is easier. But for a normal use case where I’m regularly updating and installing software, Arch is far easier and more reliable.

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      Endeavour is fantastic. I’ve been using Arch since high school, but hung it up for a few years until last year when I’d had enough of Windows’ shit. EOS takes the PITA out of the install process (I just don’t have the time these days to dig as deep as I used to), but is the same Arch experience in usage.

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      I’ve tried arch (and preferred Endeavour), but found both needed too much attention - If you consider “operating system” a hobby, they’re perfect - the versatility is endless if you invest the time.

      Personally, I want my OS to get out of the way and let me do what I want.

      • I can see that, although TBH I almost never have to “admin” EndeavourOS. I just upgrade every once in a while.

        Most important to me is being able to find and install whatever software I want, and I have a string preference that it either be installed in my ~, or be managed by the package manager. I really dislike sideloading software globally. And Arch does this better than most. AUR is massive, and packages are trivial to write and install in the rare event something isn’t in AUR.

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        I ran Arch flavors for a while, (Endeavor, Crystal, Garuda, and mostly CachyOS) and I eventually got tired of the tinkering, so I’m back on Opensuse now. Benefits of the perks of rolling release with less tinkering than Arch.

        I personally use Tumbleweed, then I use Slowroll on my media PC and my dad’s laptop.