I have been using gmail/google for a long time now (decade or more). But the systems I have come to rely on have been getting enshitified. With their new AI advertisements popping up like crazy…Im just done.
Anyone have a good alternative to gmail? Im looking for something that will not break the bank.
For a bit there, I was running my own email server, but spam and issues with my internet provider (other email servers kept thinking my domain was spamming others) made it hard to keep up. I just dont have the patience anymore for that.
I was thinking of trying out proton or namecheaps offerings and seeing if I like them.
I am used to working with thunderbird but can use online portals if needed. If they have ac alendar that might be a bonus. Personally, I want minimal or no AI. And I want the company to be trusted and in business for at least 5 years.
Any good recommendations?


Self hosted mail isn’t marked spam because it’s new, it’s because there’s a foundation of security you need because of all the bad actors over the years
You need a good understanding of servers, dns and mail to do this yourself but it is possible.
This is a good guide other than the AWS and cloud service pieces
https://markfalk.github.io/docs/self-hosting-mail
Ive actually ran corporate email servers for around 7 years at a couple of previous jobs. Ill be honest, I just dont want to do it. Its too much like work and for literal cents on the dollar I can have some entity deal with it.
Its the one thing I dont want to self host. Hell I even have my own lemmy/piefed I keep around for testing purposes. But email admin-ing over the years sucks
As someone who also supported exchange and corporate mail servers
For personal use it’s doable At scale is really hard