• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    It’s funny because that is basically the same argument people used when Social Security was established. A functional society can’t have people just dying in the street. It costs money to fix this, so it is not unreasonable to ask people to pay for it. Everyone needs healthcare eventually whether or not they are insured. People without insurance still get care which raises the prices for everyone who does have insurance. The more people who pay in, the cheaper coverage is for everyone. Making everyone be covered is simply making people pay for what they use. It’s simple economics.

    Yeah, I agree private insurance companies suck, but that’s an entirely different problem, i.e.capitslism as a whole.

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      6 days ago

      It’s funny because that is basically the same argument people used when Social Security was established.

      Social security doesn’t force people to purchase a product from an independent, for profit company.

      It’s simple economics.

      It’s a simple gift to the insurance industry.

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        6 days ago

        So then argue against a for-profit healthcare system. Don’t get pissed at the government for trying to fix a problem.

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          6 days ago

          I will always get pissed at a government that pretends to be fixing a problem by forcing me to buy a product from a for-profit company.

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            5 days ago

            You can just pay the fee for not having insurance (which hasn’t existed in 7 years) so you aren’t forced to buy from a for-profit company anyway.

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                4 days ago

                And that’s your choice. But you could still go to the ER for stuff, get treated, and then refuse to pay. Which leaves the state holding the bill. Which is why everyone needs to pay something.

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                  4 days ago

                  Not paying an $800 a month bill that I couldn’t afford isnt something I would consider “my choice”. I had very little trouble paying for insurance before Obamacare.

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                    4 days ago

                    I understand that, but that has nothing to do with Obamacare. If Obamacare wasn’t passed those prices would have gone up exactly the same (actually more).