In my country euthanasia has to be required by the person wanting to ending. Nor the government nor any other person or organization can ask for this procedure to be done to an unwilling person.
The person has to require twice, and be evaluated by a comitee of medical doctors to ensure that it has a chronic disease that could not be cured and that it’s causing ongoing pain that would not get better with medication.
Statistics on it doesn’t point to it being “targeted to anyone”. More so, there are many people who ask for it and cannot get it in time and die of natural causes before the procedure could be done.
I live in a country that allows for euthanasia and it’s not like you just walk into a doctor’s office and ask for a suicide pill. It’s a long process involving multiple doctors and psychological assessments.
Probably for budget reasons. Someone comes up with an idea that the state should cut spending on the sick and elderly and start campaigning on how we should be focusing healthcare on only the fit and the strong to save the nation. Then we just need to make the patriot pill easily available and remind sick people of how big of a burden they are.
I know, that was a bit far fetched and personally I think the terminally ill should have a way to leave with dignity instead of jumping off bridges or driving into oncoming traffic.
Someone comes up with an idea that the state should cut spending on the sick and elderly and start campaigning about how we should be focusing healthcare on only the fit and the strong
That’s already the case with private health insurance.
I think the terminally ill should have a way to leave with dignity instead of jumping off bridges or driving into oncoming traffic.
Where I live euthanasia is available in case of “suffering without chance of improvement”, which includes mental health issues in very rare cases (and only after every treatment option has been exhausted).
The last few years there has been some discussion to allow for euthanasia for people who feel they have “completed their life”. As in: elderly who don’t want to spend their last few years in an old peoples home wearing adult diapers slowly withering away. They had a good life, they feel like there is nothing left for them to do on this earth and just want a dignified death on their own terms. There is something to be said for that.
"Carr said that since Track 2 MAiD was implemented in 2021 – which allows patients who are not terminally ill to be euthanized – people with disabilities are targeted “for medical assistance in dying when they are not dying” and “that has certainly changed people’s interactions with the health care system quite dramatically.”
She said: “People with disabilities are now very much afraid in many circumstances to show up in the healthcare system with regular concerns because often MAiD is suggested as the solution to what is considered to be intolerable suffering that happens to be caused by some of the things that this committee addresses like poverty and the situations that people with disabilities disproportionately find themselves in compared to other Canadians.”"
MacAulay walked the committee through what his department knew, thus far, saying the first case that came to light occurred last summer where the caseworker repeatedly pushed the notion of MAID to an unnamed veteran who had called seeking help with post-traumatic stress.
A second occasion reported happened last May where the same caseworker provided assisted dying information to a veteran.
Another incident is alleged to have happened in December 2021, said MacAulay. It involved a veteran who contacted the department to ask questions about MAID. The committee had already heard testimony about that event during a previous hearing last month.
The fourth known case apparently happened in 2019, where a veteran called VAC specifically asking for information about assistance in taking his own life.
because of WW2 and the experiences made there.
if euthanasia was legal, it would be immediately used against some kind of disadvantaged group, which is why it’s kept forbidden.
Euthanasia is already legal in some countries.
And there are already some controversy around disadvantaged groups getting suggested applying for euthanasia, some even going through it.
Source?
In my country euthanasia has to be required by the person wanting to ending. Nor the government nor any other person or organization can ask for this procedure to be done to an unwilling person.
The person has to require twice, and be evaluated by a comitee of medical doctors to ensure that it has a chronic disease that could not be cured and that it’s causing ongoing pain that would not get better with medication.
https://www.sanidad.gob.es/gabinete/notasPrensa.do?id=6823
Statistics on it doesn’t point to it being “targeted to anyone”. More so, there are many people who ask for it and cannot get it in time and die of natural causes before the procedure could be done.
Rewording my original comment then…
Why would those disadvantaged groups agree to being euthanized?
This document says they did.
I’m pro-euthanization but if we’re going to get into a consent in fascist countries debate then I think it’s not very hard to fake.
Agree or persuaded.
How do you imagine that would work?
I live in a country that allows for euthanasia and it’s not like you just walk into a doctor’s office and ask for a suicide pill. It’s a long process involving multiple doctors and psychological assessments.
Probably for budget reasons. Someone comes up with an idea that the state should cut spending on the sick and elderly and start campaigning on how we should be focusing healthcare on only the fit and the strong to save the nation. Then we just need to make the patriot pill easily available and remind sick people of how big of a burden they are.
I know, that was a bit far fetched and personally I think the terminally ill should have a way to leave with dignity instead of jumping off bridges or driving into oncoming traffic.
That’s already the case with private health insurance.
Where I live euthanasia is available in case of “suffering without chance of improvement”, which includes mental health issues in very rare cases (and only after every treatment option has been exhausted).
The last few years there has been some discussion to allow for euthanasia for people who feel they have “completed their life”. As in: elderly who don’t want to spend their last few years in an old peoples home wearing adult diapers slowly withering away. They had a good life, they feel like there is nothing left for them to do on this earth and just want a dignified death on their own terms. There is something to be said for that.
"Carr said that since Track 2 MAiD was implemented in 2021 – which allows patients who are not terminally ill to be euthanized – people with disabilities are targeted “for medical assistance in dying when they are not dying” and “that has certainly changed people’s interactions with the health care system quite dramatically.”
She said: “People with disabilities are now very much afraid in many circumstances to show up in the healthcare system with regular concerns because often MAiD is suggested as the solution to what is considered to be intolerable suffering that happens to be caused by some of the things that this committee addresses like poverty and the situations that people with disabilities disproportionately find themselves in compared to other Canadians.”"
https://theinterim.com/issues/euthanasia-suicide/euthanasia-instills-fear-of-health-care-system-for-people-with-disabilities/
MacAulay walked the committee through what his department knew, thus far, saying the first case that came to light occurred last summer where the caseworker repeatedly pushed the notion of MAID to an unnamed veteran who had called seeking help with post-traumatic stress.
A second occasion reported happened last May where the same caseworker provided assisted dying information to a veteran.
Another incident is alleged to have happened in December 2021, said MacAulay. It involved a veteran who contacted the department to ask questions about MAID. The committee had already heard testimony about that event during a previous hearing last month.
The fourth known case apparently happened in 2019, where a veteran called VAC specifically asking for information about assistance in taking his own life.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investigation-1.6663885
Let’s not forget that there are people who love simplifying regulations. (And they even have significant influence nowadays in the EU. 😞 )