meh, i think poor laws is the closest analogue, there is no right of conquest or kids being born into it. debt prisons as well, with debt being non-equity holder in modern world, apparently
You don’t have to have chattel slavery for it to be slavery, the way enslaved people were treated as livestock by Americans was historically uniquely horrific
well, anglobrain associates american slavery in their brain with that word (and haiti weren’t americans). roman slavery or tribe war-related slavery were different from chattel slavery, but we have same word for them. while something like peasantry in russia was skirting very close to it
it’s more not to downplay slavery horrors tbh, surely those prisons will be sight of many beatings and so on, yet they still wouldn’t approach the depravity of chattel slavery.
cause they would be stolen before by adoption/foster care. no, cause they aren’t financial assets on the books nor funneled into the system by itself, rather by material position
on larger and probabilistic outcome scale it would be kinda sorta comparable (if these laws get implemented that is), but still the comparison makes me icky the class reasoning is also very different
meh, i think poor laws is the closest analogue, there is no right of conquest or kids being born into it. debt prisons as well, with debt being non-equity holder in modern world, apparently
You don’t have to have chattel slavery for it to be slavery, the way enslaved people were treated as livestock by Americans was historically uniquely horrific
well, anglobrain associates american slavery in their brain with that word (and haiti weren’t americans). roman slavery or tribe war-related slavery were different from chattel slavery, but we have same word for them. while something like peasantry in russia was skirting very close to it
it’s more not to downplay slavery horrors tbh, surely those prisons will be sight of many beatings and so on, yet they still wouldn’t approach the depravity of chattel slavery.
Sure, but there’s clearly a trajectory here.
How exactly would children not be born into it?
cause they would be stolen before by adoption/foster care. no, cause they aren’t financial assets on the books nor funneled into the system by itself, rather by material position
Ah okay thank you
on larger and probabilistic outcome scale it would be kinda sorta comparable (if these laws get implemented that is), but still the comparison makes me icky
the class reasoning is also very different
Makes sense