• mcv@lemmy.zip
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    16 days ago

    I don’t think I’m in the minority at all. There are many Christians all over the world who try to live by the words of Jesus, by love and charity. It’s just that US politics and media gets dominated by people weaponizing it to justify their hate, and that has lead a lot of people astray. It’s not something that only happens in the US, but it’s also something that always receives pushback when it happens. Sometimes slower than at other times. Dutch churches seem to be a lot more vigilant about this sort of thing than American churches, but again, consider that people like Martin Luther King, Jimmy Carter and many people like then are also Christian.

    You truly believe that someone, no matter how bad, deserves eternal torment.

    You’re trying to put me in God’s place here. What I believe God expects of me, is to love my neighbour l, which means everybody I get into any kind of contact with, and to love them, help them when they’re in need, even when they are my enemy.

    This punishment you obsess about is not ours to execute. It is not ours to judge. It’s ours to love. But sadly there’s no shortage of people who want to claim God’s authority for themselves and deal out punishment to the people they feel deserve it.

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      11 days ago

      You could have just said you’re picking the last choice.

      Just to be clear, you support eternal torture. That is evil and wrong no matter what the circumstances are. If you do not think that is evil and wrong then you have no right to talk about morality or right and wrong because your position starts from such a psychotic idea. When called out, you just say, well I don’t have to think about that or answer it in any way because my invisible friend is always right especially when it makes absolutely no sense. The fact that you are able to justify this and then just go about your day is frightening to someone who aspires to enjoy a civilized society.

      And just because I apparently have to point this out again, the fact that some Christians, Muslims etc are nice people does not negate the fact that your foundational worldview is morally bankrupt. It’s great that some people can take the good out of religion and ignore the bad but it goes both ways. Humanity cannot succeed as long as it’s widely accepted that an imaginary deity can be used as justification for accepting evil ideas and committing evil deeds.

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        11 days ago

        you support eternal torture

        That’s your projection. I do not support it. I’m against it, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I sincerely hope that everybody gets to go to heaven, or whatever the afterlife will turn out to be, but don’t make a lot of assumptions about what it will be like. Unlike you, apparently. Despite your stated unbelief, you’ve got some pretty clear ideas about what it must be like or what you feel others must believe about it.