Nah, I’m Canadian so I didn’t have a say in the matter on who got elected down in that shithole. But Americans are 100% to blame. 2/3rd of the country openly voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all, therefore accepting whoever won.
It doesn’t matter about the DNCs failures. Everything Trump has done and is doing was predicted years ago. My fucking dog knew all this was going to happen and he’s a fucking dog.
I hope OP never stops reminding all of you the failure you collectively are. America will never live this down internationally. America will never be great again because of this. You’ve burned your allies, you’ve burned your trade, you’ve burned your economy… America as it was once knows is never coming back.
And it’s your fault. This was 100% avoidable knowing this would all happen under Trump and the majority of you said “LOL no it won’t you’re overreacting”.
Imagine someone telling you “If you turn your car on, it WILL explode.” and you reply “Lol you’re overreacting, it’s not going to explode”. Then it explodes and you blame the car next to yours for not exploding.
Exactly this! The DNC failures are completely irrelevant.
People never should have voted for a candidate boasting about creating the most lethal military and finishing the border wall to keep all the evil immigrants out.
Wait, what do you mean that was Harris’s campaign?
The problem is that while it’s true Harris would have been a better outcome than this shitshow currently happening (which is why I voted for her), Harris was still trying to tack to the fucking right. Instead of standing in opposition to Trump, she relented on his talking points. Instead of pushing back on the anti immigrant narrative and acknowledging the border wall for the racist bullshit waste of money that it is, she criticized him for not actually finishing it, and promised that she would finish the job herself.
You don’t think that is a failure of the DNC trying to pivot right to be able to capture the never trump Republicans while losing support from the core of their party? If you want people to vote for you, give them a fucking reason to vote for you. Don’t pose yourself as a watered down version of the other candidate. And then get upset for people not voting for the lesser evil when you’re doing your best to get as close as possible to the greater evil without copying them completely.
People always argue that we could have pushed Harris farther left after she was elected, but how do we do that? During the run up to election, with the primaries and everything was the best time to push for her to change her policy. During that time, you have your vote as leverage. And you communicate what you want to see from the candidate in order to get your vote. After she’s elected, what leverage do the people have to get her to enact progressive policies? And during the primaries, people were very vocal about wanting Harris to change her policy on Israel and Gaza. And even with the pressure, and knowing exactly what she had to do to gain those votes, she refused to budge.
This is more like being stuck in a bus heading towards a cliff, and one person is telling you they’re going to floor it and go off the cliff going 90 mph and the other person saying that would go off the cliff at a reasonable 60 mph instead. I get that one is technically better than the other, and that perhaps we don’t have the luxury of finding the perfect person saying they’re just going to hit the brakes. But do you really expect people to be enthusiastic about someone saying they’re going to take you to the exact same demise but just slightly slower?
awesome, i received my first threat on lemmy bc of this meme
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Nah, I’m Canadian so I didn’t have a say in the matter on who got elected down in that shithole. But Americans are 100% to blame. 2/3rd of the country openly voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all, therefore accepting whoever won.
It doesn’t matter about the DNCs failures. Everything Trump has done and is doing was predicted years ago. My fucking dog knew all this was going to happen and he’s a fucking dog.
I hope OP never stops reminding all of you the failure you collectively are. America will never live this down internationally. America will never be great again because of this. You’ve burned your allies, you’ve burned your trade, you’ve burned your economy… America as it was once knows is never coming back.
And it’s your fault. This was 100% avoidable knowing this would all happen under Trump and the majority of you said “LOL no it won’t you’re overreacting”.
Imagine someone telling you “If you turn your car on, it WILL explode.” and you reply “Lol you’re overreacting, it’s not going to explode”. Then it explodes and you blame the car next to yours for not exploding.
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I will refute this, Canadians as well as most westerners know what that’s like, just maybe not quite as much as Americans.
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Exactly this! The DNC failures are completely irrelevant.
People never should have voted for a candidate boasting about creating the most lethal military and finishing the border wall to keep all the evil immigrants out.
Wait, what do you mean that was Harris’s campaign?
The problem is that while it’s true Harris would have been a better outcome than this shitshow currently happening (which is why I voted for her), Harris was still trying to tack to the fucking right. Instead of standing in opposition to Trump, she relented on his talking points. Instead of pushing back on the anti immigrant narrative and acknowledging the border wall for the racist bullshit waste of money that it is, she criticized him for not actually finishing it, and promised that she would finish the job herself.
You don’t think that is a failure of the DNC trying to pivot right to be able to capture the never trump Republicans while losing support from the core of their party? If you want people to vote for you, give them a fucking reason to vote for you. Don’t pose yourself as a watered down version of the other candidate. And then get upset for people not voting for the lesser evil when you’re doing your best to get as close as possible to the greater evil without copying them completely.
People always argue that we could have pushed Harris farther left after she was elected, but how do we do that? During the run up to election, with the primaries and everything was the best time to push for her to change her policy. During that time, you have your vote as leverage. And you communicate what you want to see from the candidate in order to get your vote. After she’s elected, what leverage do the people have to get her to enact progressive policies? And during the primaries, people were very vocal about wanting Harris to change her policy on Israel and Gaza. And even with the pressure, and knowing exactly what she had to do to gain those votes, she refused to budge.
This is more like being stuck in a bus heading towards a cliff, and one person is telling you they’re going to floor it and go off the cliff going 90 mph and the other person saying that would go off the cliff at a reasonable 60 mph instead. I get that one is technically better than the other, and that perhaps we don’t have the luxury of finding the perfect person saying they’re just going to hit the brakes. But do you really expect people to be enthusiastic about someone saying they’re going to take you to the exact same demise but just slightly slower?
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