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minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up57·1 month agoI don’t think we’ve ever seen the US lose a war so quickly and completely. And I call it losing because they’ve failed at every reasonable objective.
minus-squareAkasazh@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10·1 month agoThey never had a reasonable objective to start with
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up4·1 month agoThat’s why I wrote every reasonable objective. They can stick around for 20 years blowing stuff up, but you can’t win unless you have some objective.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down2·1 month agoAmericans honestly don’t even consider this our war. This is Trump’s war. America didn’t lose this war. Trump lost Trump’s war.
minus-squareBrainInABox@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 month agoAmerican’s first priority always seems to be to deny all responsibility.
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·1 month agoI do not blame them, this is Trump’s war of ego.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up6·1 month agoHonestly, of all the bad possible outcomes of this war. Losing this way is the least bad.
minus-square[object Object]@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up5·1 month agoMaybe. The fertilizer shortage driven famines and dust bowl haven’t started yet.
minus-square1dalm@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoExactly, if this really all ended now then we all practically got off easy. (Including the Iranian people compared to how bad it could get.)
minus-squareDarkSpectrum@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoso far… until the boots touch down and the loss gets worse
I don’t think we’ve ever seen the US lose a war so quickly and completely.
And I call it losing because they’ve failed at every reasonable objective.
They never had a reasonable objective to start with
That’s why I wrote every reasonable objective.
They can stick around for 20 years blowing stuff up, but you can’t win unless you have some objective.
Americans honestly don’t even consider this our war.
This is Trump’s war. America didn’t lose this war. Trump lost Trump’s war.
American’s first priority always seems to be to deny all responsibility.
I do not blame them, this is Trump’s war of ego.
Honestly, of all the bad possible outcomes of this war. Losing this way is the least bad.
Maybe.
The fertilizer shortage driven famines and dust bowl haven’t started yet.
Exactly, if this really all ended now then we all practically got off easy. (Including the Iranian people compared to how bad it could get.)
so far… until the boots touch down and the loss gets worse