We just have to wait until Windows 12, the cloud OS, and dual boot will be no more. All that’ll be necessary is a browser and a fast internet connection. CoD and Valorant players though… dunno what to do about them. Pro gaming won’t be possible without running windows locally to get the highest framerate.
The only way to prevent dual booting would require a UEFI/BIOS that pulls the OS straight over a network, bypassing local storage entirely.
Even if that didn’t already rule it out, the size that OSes are these days makes it even less likely. At least not unless Microsoft (or whoever) are planning to ditch absolutely everyone who doesn’t have gigabit internet. (It would be kind of funny for an OS to go back to being 1990s-sized to mitigate that though. And funnier still when someone inevitably captures it onto a hard disk anyway.)
A more likely vector would be to deliberately break third party bootloaders every time Windows boots. And that would last until the next anti-trust / monopoly lawsuit and they’d roll it back to the current behaviour of only breaking third party bootloaders on installation.
And even if somehow that didn’t get rolled back, just wait until hardware vendors introduce this thing called a “switch” that can be added just before the power connector on an SSD. Can’t boot from a drive that has no power. BIOS defaults to the next SATA channel. And now you’re booting into Linux.
Doing the same for a mobo-mounted NVMe drive is harder but not impossible.
Hmmmm, I think you interpreted my comment as microsoft trying to make dual booting impossible? I meant it wouldn’t be necessary anymore, because one would just require linux with a browser to access windows if need be.
The simplest way I can imagine to forcefully disable dualbooting is do what Malus does: control the hardware and only allow one signed OS on there. Don’t trust anything else.
That sounds like you’re suggesting that Microsoft wouldn’t care what was installed locally to be able to net-boot / run the rest of Windows.
I think it’s all but certain that they’d want user’s computers to to boot into something they made, or at the very least, slapped their branding all over, even if that was only a wrapper for their web browser.
I can definitely see them going down the line of saying that their online apps aren’t guaranteed to work under any other system, going so far as to throw in a few deliberate stumbling hazards for anything that isn’t theirs. (Until anti-trust, etc.)
And thus, dual booting will still be something that people do. Even if - as you clarified - they’re not going to cripple that as well.
I think it’s all but certain that they’d want user’s computers to to boot into something they made, or at the very least, slapped their branding all over, even if that was only a wrapper for their web browser.
Oh yeah, absolutely. They might even make Edge send some additional data to verify that it’s the browser being used. They might even add attestation with a binary is pinging Microsoft with messages signed by a microsoft private unique per machine and generated when the user signs in. They could add a paid subscription to limit the number of devices connecting to the cloud instance. For an extra fee they could add connection “from any device or browser”.
Or or or. There are a bunch of things they can do. They could also, as I said, just allow any browser to connect, but looking back, yeah, that’s probably naive.
Who knows and who knows how fast (or slow) governments would react.
We just have to wait until Windows 12, the cloud OS, and dual boot will be no more. All that’ll be necessary is a browser and a fast internet connection. CoD and Valorant players though… dunno what to do about them. Pro gaming won’t be possible without running windows locally to get the highest framerate.
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The only way to prevent dual booting would require a UEFI/BIOS that pulls the OS straight over a network, bypassing local storage entirely.
Even if that didn’t already rule it out, the size that OSes are these days makes it even less likely. At least not unless Microsoft (or whoever) are planning to ditch absolutely everyone who doesn’t have gigabit internet. (It would be kind of funny for an OS to go back to being 1990s-sized to mitigate that though. And funnier still when someone inevitably captures it onto a hard disk anyway.)
A more likely vector would be to deliberately break third party bootloaders every time Windows boots. And that would last until the next anti-trust / monopoly lawsuit and they’d roll it back to the current behaviour of only breaking third party bootloaders on installation.
And even if somehow that didn’t get rolled back, just wait until hardware vendors introduce this thing called a “switch” that can be added just before the power connector on an SSD. Can’t boot from a drive that has no power. BIOS defaults to the next SATA channel. And now you’re booting into Linux.
Doing the same for a mobo-mounted NVMe drive is harder but not impossible.
Hmmmm, I think you interpreted my comment as microsoft trying to make dual booting impossible? I meant it wouldn’t be necessary anymore, because one would just require linux with a browser to access windows if need be.
The simplest way I can imagine to forcefully disable dualbooting is do what Malus does: control the hardware and only allow one signed OS on there. Don’t trust anything else.
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(FWIW the downvote wasn’t me)
That sounds like you’re suggesting that Microsoft wouldn’t care what was installed locally to be able to net-boot / run the rest of Windows.
I think it’s all but certain that they’d want user’s computers to to boot into something they made, or at the very least, slapped their branding all over, even if that was only a wrapper for their web browser.
I can definitely see them going down the line of saying that their online apps aren’t guaranteed to work under any other system, going so far as to throw in a few deliberate stumbling hazards for anything that isn’t theirs. (Until anti-trust, etc.)
And thus, dual booting will still be something that people do. Even if - as you clarified - they’re not going to cripple that as well.
Oh yeah, absolutely. They might even make Edge send some additional data to verify that it’s the browser being used. They might even add attestation with a binary is pinging Microsoft with messages signed by a microsoft private unique per machine and generated when the user signs in. They could add a paid subscription to limit the number of devices connecting to the cloud instance. For an extra fee they could add connection “from any device or browser”.
Or or or. There are a bunch of things they can do. They could also, as I said, just allow any browser to connect, but looking back, yeah, that’s probably naive.
Who knows and who knows how fast (or slow) governments would react.
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