Nato considers being ‘more aggressive’ against Russia’s hybrid warfare
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Alliance’s top military officer says it could become proactive in dealing with threat from Moscow

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Nato is considering being “more aggressive” in responding to Russia’s cyber attacks, sabotage and airspace violations, according to the alliance’s most senior military officer.

Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone told the Financial Times that the western military alliance was looking at stepping up its response to hybrid warfare from Moscow.

“We are studying everything . . . On cyber, we are kind of reactive. Being more aggressive or being proactive instead of reactive is something that we are thinking about,” said Dragone, who is chair of Nato’s military committee.

Europe has been hit by numerous hybrid war incidents — some attributed to Russia and others unclear — from the cutting of cables in the Baltic Sea to cyber attacks across the continent.

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Dragone said that a “pre-emptive strike” could be considered a “defensive action”, but added: “It is further away from our normal way of thinking and behaviour.”

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A Baltic diplomat said: “If all we do is continue being reactive, we just invite Russia to keep trying, keep hurting us. Especially when hybrid warfare is asymmetric — it costs them little, and us a lot. We need to try to be more inventive.”

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    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
      19·
      10 months ago

      I don’t really care arguing the semantics whether or not Ukraine counts as “Europe” (it sure didn’t count as European before 2022).

      Russia has no interest in attacking any EU country, then. 🙄

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
          16·
          10 months ago

          Yep, that says everything.

          Discussions are so much easier to win if you’re just ripping the complete context from a message, amirite? /s

          Would you count Russia as Europe?

          I’ll repeat: Russia doesn’t have any interest in attacking any EU country. Claiming they do is propaganda.

            • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
              03·
              10 months ago

              Yeah, just keep repeating your propaganda and ignore all my points and questions

              What points and questions? You did nothing, but insult me.

              It’s not a matter of what I count. IT IS in Europe. Fact.

              I already told you that I’m not interested in this discussion.

              As I have said, the EU has been under Russian attack for at least a decade. And I have even listed proof in one of the comments.

              Yeah, sure. And I am the propagandist? Show me the Russian tanks crossing an EU border.

              Please do tell me how exactly is it propaganda

              You’re peddling talking points by western nations to convince people that Russia is definetly going to invade. Do you think only “evil” nations propagandize?

              It is YOU who is spreading Russian propaganda that they do not want to invade other post-soviet countries in Europe.

              I’m sure you can prove that that’s the case? /s

              It serves them by keeping the EU’s military weak and reliant on the USA. However the USA cannot be trusted, since Trump is in love with Putin and he will sooner help Russia than the EU.

              Holy shit, you’re embarrassing. Your level of geopolitical competence is on the level of a literal school child.

              So fuck you for spreading Russian propaganda. I bet your daddy Putin is crapping its pants now that his attempts to divide Europe backfired.

              I’m pretty sure that kind of insult is against the rules. Reporting you…

                • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  17·
                  10 months ago

                  Ukraine is full of Russian tanks.

                  Ukraine is not in the EU. The common narrative is that Russia will invade Poland, the Baltic states or even central Europe. I don’t believe that narrative. That doesn’t make me a russian propagandist.

                  Russia is also waging a hybrid warfare against NATO members

                  You mean that wikipedia article full of allegations? The one that also mentions the attacks on nordstream which were probably done by Ukraine?

                  I don’t care enough for your tone to look up what you wrote. Russia has no interest in invading the EU, then.

                  And how exactly does it help the west?

                  Makes the population prepared for war with Russia.

                  Facts are that Russia is more and more aggressive towards Europe waging hybrid warfare.

                  Most of those are allegations. It can also be seen as retaliation against economic warfare. And I was referring to attack as in military warfare.

                  So what options does EU have to defend themselves?

                  Europe can “defend itself” well enough already. Also: Europe’s defense is not my concern. Europe’s interests are different from mine.

                  • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                    5·
                    10 months ago

                    But I’d just be someone who’d be forced to fight in that war.

                    Also: Europe’s defense is not my concern. Europe’s interests are different from mine.

                    Pick a fucking lane, you nonce.