• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    The similarity is the mystery box nature of them, not what’s intended to be done with them.

    Are D&D rulebooks mysteries when you buy them, or do you know it’s the player’s handbook before purchase?

    And btw you’re not better than other collectors simply because you play a little game with your collection, you’re the same as any philatelist.

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      21 hours ago

      Who said anything about being “better” than anyone else? Jesus Christ, is that what people took from “this one is not like the others”? I see the mystery box nature of the packs, of course, but the existence of the game around Magic means there’s a literal difference between that and all the other examples, for fuck’s sake.

      To the point about D&D rulebooks, do you not know you’re buying a pack of Magic cards? No, you just don’t know what’s in the pack. If you already knew exactly what was in the D&D rulebook, why would you need to buy the book? That said, I’ll concede the point that they’re not really equivalent despite the fact that they’re both games played with printed pieces of paper, because that mystery aspect to a pack of Magic cards makes them different. Just like the presence of a game makes Magic different than the other examples.

      It doesn’t make people who collect Magic cards any better. It just means their collection has a practical use in addition to display.

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        19 hours ago

        So then all books are now mystery boxes, and so are movies, tv shows, music, etc? Unless you’ve memorized every word? That’s not ridiculous at all lol.

        No, to fit your analogy you’d need to buy “DnD Book” sight unseen, and then open a wrapper find out if it’s the PH, DMG, Tasha’s, whatever. “Aww man player’s handbook again? Why can’t I get the Monster Manual?!”

        But yes it does kind of seem like you’re putting down those who collect “useless” things and your distinction of collecting to display vs collecting to play a game is tenuous at best. It’s like saying that collecting guitars is better than magic because at least you can gain a real skill instead of playing with sweaty dudes in the card shop every Friday, like, sure but also guitar is no more worthy a pursuit than magic which is no more worthy a pursuit than collecting action figures or [insert any “useless” item that brings someone joy.] Sometimes people like things that you don’t, it just be like that.

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          18 hours ago

          So then all books are now mystery boxes, and so are movies, tv shows, music, etc? Unless you’ve memorized every word? That’s not ridiculous at all lol.

          I think you might have missed this from my reply:

          That said, I’ll concede the point that they’re not really equivalent despite the fact that they’re both games played with printed pieces of paper, because that mystery aspect to a pack of Magic cards makes them different

          Now I’d like to respond to this:

          But yes it does kind of seem like you’re putting down those who collect “useless” things and your distinction of collecting to display vs collecting to play a game is tenuous at best.

          Listen pal, I already told you that wasn’t my intention, and clarified again that the existence of the game is the thing I hold as the differentiator between Magic and quite literally everything else on that list, and that I’m not saying that makes it better, just the odd one out. You can do me the courtesy of believing me, or you can fuck off. You don’t get to dictate my intentions or meaning.

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            18 hours ago

            And that’s just supposed to make me ignore this ridiculous nonsense?

            To the point about D&D rulebooks, do you not know you’re buying a pack of Magic cards? No, you just don’t know what’s in the pack. If you already knew exactly what was in the D&D rulebook, why would you need to buy the book?

            No. I replied to it. Maybe don’t argue the point and continue being wrong while you’re “conceding” then if you expect me to take it seriously. Keep that smug shit to yourself especially when you’re this off base, smugness is for the correct.

            Listen pal,

            Not your pal, guy.

            I already told you that wasn’t my intention,

            “But then I doubled down.”

            but the existence of the game around Magic means there’s a literal difference between that and all the other examples, for fuck’s sake.

            It doesn’t make people who collect Magic cards any better. It just means their collection has a practical use in addition to display.

            Makes it sound like you’re saying those who play rather than simply collect are indeed better, “magic collecters who don’t play are just as bad as those buying labubus” type shit. Your “dickhead” routine isn’t helping that. Just saying, that’s probably why you got those five downvotes you’re crying about, if I had to guess. I mean, you did ask I’m just trying to help.

            Sure, I’ll believe it wasn’t your intention and you’re just a natural asshole, fine. That better sweetie?