• Quittenbrot@feddit.org
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    1 year ago

    Regardless, UK is in Europe. Israel is not, and never has been to my knowledge.

    So?

    The data you’ve shown here is about the EIC (European Innovation Council), which is funded by Horizon Europe, in which, despite its name, also non-European countries can be (associated) members of. This includes Israel, but also Turkey, Canada or Tunisia, i.a.. Those members obviously also have to pay into it.

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      As an european I don’t want my name associated with genocidal regime, especially when those regime develop surveillance technologies and drones that one day might be used on civilians population here.

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        1 year ago

        …and that’s fine.

        But that’s something different than to try to make it appear as though Israel is somehow unjustifiably being fed “European money” here.

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          Of course it’s unjustifiable, what the fuck. They’re bombing civilians. Are you justifying any association with a genocidal regime?

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            1 year ago

            I replied to this comment:

            Regardless, UK is in Europe. Israel is not, and never has been to my knowledge.

            So unjustifiable in terms of “look, there is this non-European country that gets money from this European fund.”. That’s simply not the case, as this “European fund” is also funded by non-European countries (for exampe Israel).

            If you want all Israeli science projects, startups and companies currently partaking in the EIC to be expelled due to the actions of the Israeli government, that’s totally fine by me. But as said, this can and should be done in a direct and honest approach instead of creating the scandalising and false sentiment that a non-European country is somehow unjustifiably being fed European money here.

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              Honestly, I’d rather be accused of inaccuracy than being complicit with a genocide.

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                Fine. But if you don’t even want to bother to argue accurately, why should anyone care about your contributions?

                A lot of the current problems in the world stem from people no longer wanting to take an arduous look at the whole picture and instead jump to quick conclusions. I don’t think thats something we also should do here, but you do you.

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                  There is no point in arguing when talking about genocide. If you can’t see allowing a criminal regime to share our funding infrastructure (which albeit indirect, is still funding them) is wrong, we just won’t agree.

                  Nobody want to waste time arguing with pedophiles about the merits of fucking kids.

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                @KIKILOVE@piefed.social

                This is - among others - what is understood by propaganda and what I’d call an agenda: Repeat your own single argument, not matter what others have commented.

                [Edit typo.]