• july@leminal.space
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    2 months ago

    Would Signal be affected by this?

    If yes, what’s the move: Matrix or self host my own chat for my family?

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      Idk how they could scan e2e encrypted messages

      But yeah, if they got their wish it would. More likely, signal would withdraw from Europe.

      «As per its first version, all messaging software providers would be required to perform indiscriminate scanning of private messages to look for CSAM – so-called ‘client-side scanning’. The proposal was met with a strong backlash, and the European Court of Human Rights ended up banning all legal efforts to weaken encryption of secure communications in Europe.«

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        It is just people who are inpatient and think that a company offering FOSS software has as much resources as a company offering proprietary data collection services which they can sell

        It does what I need it to do and even more. All I need is a tool to communicate with my friends in secure way

        People who want to use it as replacement for discord are those who complain most, but I use it as replacement of WhatsApp etc.

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          The guy who wrote that article has been pushing matrix for 5 years or so, and his complaints sound pretty legitimate. Not exactly clueless user bullshit. Did you read the article?

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            I did not say that the author is clueless, I just don’t see how you can expect fast development in a capitalist world when they don’t really sell anything

            Don’t get me wrong, I am frustrated about slow progress as well, but I have the opinion, that only whining about it does not make it better

            If you are not happy with the speed of progress, “just” get a team, fork it, and do it yourself

            Article was way to long, so I only skimmed it

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              If you are not happy with the speed of progress, “just” get a team, fork it, and do it yourself

              Never understood this argument. Not everybody can be working on everything, and while Matrix is open source it’s also got an official company maintaining it, so you’d have an uphill fight from the start. The obvious other choice is to use an alternative, which is what the author did by moving back to xmpp.

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                This exchange shows a clash of philosophies. While you are not wrong exactly, neither is your interlocutor. The “capitalist” mindset (as illustrated by your good-faith comment) is to treat this like shopping - “we’ll just go elsewhere”. But the whole point of FOSS is that we do the work, not “them”. So while it’s true that “not everyone can be working on everything”, ultimately that’s very much our problem and one that only we can solve.