God damn I love it :) I’ve been messing with Linux for 20 years now and there are some patterns that never seem to change.
In almost every thread about Linux there will always be:
1 person bragging about 'Using Arch" btw
1 or 2 people saying this will be “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
2 or 3 people joking about it being “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
10 - 15 people explaining why it wont be or shouldn’t ever be “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
3 or 4 people complaining about how rude the Linux community is.
10-20 people saying that isn’t their experience and/or they always try to help people when they can.
1 or 2 people actually being rude (who are usually downvoted).
2 or 3 people saying how Windows/Mac OS is better in certain ways.
4 or 5 people complaining about one specific thing that doesn’t quite work for them in Linux, or one specific Windows only program they must use for work.
8- 10 people giving them suggestions about how to solve their issue or work around it.
Personally I love the Linux community. The people are mostly great, friendly, able to think outside the box, and willing to help others. I try to emulate that whenever possible. Sure you are going to get rude people in every scene, I just ignore them.
I’ve only ever found the Linux community helpful. I’m not saying there aren’t dicks out there (I saw the one in this thread even) but for the most part people are more than willing to help out.
1000% they are out there. Thank fucking Satan they don’t dominate certain spaces the way they used to! I always kept a lot of tech at arm’s length because I wasn’t capable of having a knock down drag out fight every time I formed even the mildest of opinion on a feature or something.
I’m sorry to put this so bluntly, but technical people are some of the dumbest human beings on planet earth.
I chalk it up to idiots that recommend Arch to new users, then they’re so confused they ask questions that most Arch users would think are silly, then everyone gets pissed off.
Who is this mythical average user I keep hearing about?
I’ve never had a problem forcing people at work - even those with very limited IT knowledge - to run things from cli in windows.
For years in one place I worked the IT support first line solution was to tell all users to force a gp update from the windows cli. They’d point to a nice little how to guide with screenshots and everything. I don’t know if any of the thousands of people working there were the all important average user either though, probably not.
Okay but I’ve been using Linux for several years and I’ve never had to use the command line. I have used it a couple times, but it was by choice, not necessity.
The folks who show up looking to genuinely learn something, who have a goal to accomplish, I’ll gladly help them out. I’ll go learn something I don’t know yet so I can teach it to them. Willingness to learn is the most respectable thing I can think of. All that “EAUGH Linux isn’t user friendly enough” shit is unwillingness to learn. “Why doesn’t this perfectly conform to my bad habits?” Because you haven’t died in a fire yet. Common mistake for people like you.
Try to run it on 4/8 gb RAM (officially supported configuration and many brand new laptops still are sold with 8gb soldered) and experience how worse is compared to w10
Its not terrible, objectively speaking, but as someone who uses it for work - I don’t care to use it at home at all. The only Windows instances at home are VMs running W10 LTSC, and they are strictly for specialty software (vehicle diagnostics stuff) or legal reasons (my lawyer requires Adobe Acrobat for PDFs). I have zero physical Windows machines otherwise.
No its just a common trend I see when I look for answers to questions I have about aspects of Linux. I work in tech and know lots of tech people. Chill is one of the few terms I would use for them hahaha.
It all depends on the context to be honest. I’ve found that tech people, outside of professional contexts, are generally a lot more helpful. Things are different at work.
It would probably be more if there weren’t so many Linux gatekeepers that tell people to “go back to Windows/Apple” when they ask a questions.
God damn I love it :) I’ve been messing with Linux for 20 years now and there are some patterns that never seem to change.
In almost every thread about Linux there will always be:
1 person bragging about 'Using Arch" btw
1 or 2 people saying this will be “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
2 or 3 people joking about it being “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
10 - 15 people explaining why it wont be or shouldn’t ever be “The Year of the Linux Desktop”
3 or 4 people complaining about how rude the Linux community is.
10-20 people saying that isn’t their experience and/or they always try to help people when they can.
1 or 2 people actually being rude (who are usually downvoted).
2 or 3 people saying how Windows/Mac OS is better in certain ways.
4 or 5 people complaining about one specific thing that doesn’t quite work for them in Linux, or one specific Windows only program they must use for work.
8- 10 people giving them suggestions about how to solve their issue or work around it.
Personally I love the Linux community. The people are mostly great, friendly, able to think outside the box, and willing to help others. I try to emulate that whenever possible. Sure you are going to get rude people in every scene, I just ignore them.
I’ve only ever found the Linux community helpful. I’m not saying there aren’t dicks out there (I saw the one in this thread even) but for the most part people are more than willing to help out.
Oh they’re out there. Usually the neckbeards who treat new users like they’re stupid if they can’t do a bash script right off the bat.
1000% they are out there. Thank fucking Satan they don’t dominate certain spaces the way they used to! I always kept a lot of tech at arm’s length because I wasn’t capable of having a knock down drag out fight every time I formed even the mildest of opinion on a feature or something.
I’m sorry to put this so bluntly, but technical people are some of the dumbest human beings on planet earth.
I chalk it up to idiots that recommend Arch to new users, then they’re so confused they ask questions that most Arch users would think are silly, then everyone gets pissed off.
Yes.
Also: theyrethesamepicture.jpg
Did this happen to you in particular? Most tech oriented people (and Linux users by extensions) are generally chill
I have not found that to be the case.
Try and tell them that your average user cannot, or will not, use the command line , and you’ll both get called morons.
Who is this mythical average user I keep hearing about?
I’ve never had a problem forcing people at work - even those with very limited IT knowledge - to run things from cli in windows.
For years in one place I worked the IT support first line solution was to tell all users to force a gp update from the windows cli. They’d point to a nice little how to guide with screenshots and everything. I don’t know if any of the thousands of people working there were the all important average user either though, probably not.
Okay but I’ve been using Linux for several years and I’ve never had to use the command line. I have used it a couple times, but it was by choice, not necessity.
You do not have to use the command line to use most Linux distros. I think it’s a good idea to learn, but it’s no longer a necessity.
Well you both would be making assumptions about people wouldnt you?
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Yep, there it is.
That did not take long at all
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Haha, Don’t offer people windows 11 , even in jest. It’s clearly the opposite of “being excellent” to them ( rule 3).
Gotta love mods.
The folks who show up looking to genuinely learn something, who have a goal to accomplish, I’ll gladly help them out. I’ll go learn something I don’t know yet so I can teach it to them. Willingness to learn is the most respectable thing I can think of. All that “EAUGH Linux isn’t user friendly enough” shit is unwillingness to learn. “Why doesn’t this perfectly conform to my bad habits?” Because you haven’t died in a fire yet. Common mistake for people like you.
Windows 11 is nowhere near as terrible as people here make it out to be.
Try to run it on 4/8 gb RAM (officially supported configuration and many brand new laptops still are sold with 8gb soldered) and experience how worse is compared to w10
Its not terrible, objectively speaking, but as someone who uses it for work - I don’t care to use it at home at all. The only Windows instances at home are VMs running W10 LTSC, and they are strictly for specialty software (vehicle diagnostics stuff) or legal reasons (my lawyer requires Adobe Acrobat for PDFs). I have zero physical Windows machines otherwise.
I just disabled all the annoying stuff, uninstalled Onedrive, turned off all the news and stock prices on the lock screen etc.
A bit annoying I had to do that, but whatever.
No its just a common trend I see when I look for answers to questions I have about aspects of Linux. I work in tech and know lots of tech people. Chill is one of the few terms I would use for them hahaha.
It all depends on the context to be honest. I’ve found that tech people, outside of professional contexts, are generally a lot more helpful. Things are different at work.
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