This piques my interest, however with absolutely horrid experiences with Hyundai/kia dealers in the past, I have my reservations. Especially as an ev is not as easily user serviceable compared to a traditional gasoline variant.
Will wait to see, but really excited for the rivian r3. I’m glad low cost commuter evs are becoming a thing… I’m just waiting for Toyota/honda to create a compelling offering.
Rivians do look kind of nice but I’m not willing to support any company with an exclusive charging network because that’s just such a stupid awful thing to make and I don’t know why anyone accepts it. I don’t think people would accept like a Honda exclusive gas station so I don’t know why people do it with EVs.
(Actually it looks like rivian will open their network to other vehicles later this year which is good, I still think it’s stupid they ever made it exclusive in the first place but if they actually open it that’s reasonable)
I had an XG350L, I think an '02, and it was good for a year or two before everything started failing on it. I’ve heard nothing but good things about their EVs from the past couple of years, but I’ll forever be wary of Hyundai/Kia. How long have you had your Ioniq? I love my '16 RAV4 but I know I’ll outlive it and it’ll get replaced by an EV when the time finally comes. Any concessions to be ready for? I rarely drive more than like 2 hours, so the range isn’t really a concern.
I got my Ioniq 5 on 1 March, so obvious it’s early. The range on mine is a little short compared to some (~400 km from 80% charge), but it’s more than adequate and then some for what I need. As a matter of fact, I’ll be surprised if it struggles much during my upcoming move from Texas to New York.
That sort of trip used to be a guaranteed headache, but I’m sure by now you will find plenty of charging stations without even really trying. If it were me, I’d still try to map out the stops for peace of mind. You’re probably on 40 for a good chunk of that, and then 95. IIRC, 40 has you go through TN for an absurdly long time, probably like 20-25% of the total trip lol. I’m in NoVA and can warn you now to try to avoid being on or near the beltway 1500-1900 on a weekday haha. You might as well just stop and have a relaxed dinner and car charge if that’s how your timing falls.
I’ve done the drive before. Thinking Austin to Nashville on day 1, then Nashville to Arlington on day 2 (I’ve got some friends there I’ll be staying with), and Arlington to NYC on day 3. 495 can indeed go fuck itself.
They seem like a more realist company than Tesla or lucid. Their first vehicles being Amazon delivery trucks seems to ground them a bit more than a company trying to do purely luxury vehicles.
I mean they’re still expensive, but it’s a start I guess…
As someone who lives not far from their HQ, FUCK Tesla. Scam company lead by a guy who’s actively trying to destroy the local watershed. Lucid I think are trying to do well, but they’re definitely not competing in the typical mass market segment in the same way that Hyundai, Honda, et al are.
I get your point; I don’t really trust our closest Kia dealership and my wife’s Soul had the issue with the motor burning too much oil, which eventually killed the motor and took 7 weeks to replace. Kia paid for it all (including the Bolt EUV rental we wound up in which was my first long-term experience with an EV), but it was still a hassle. Still, I’m really interested in an EV9 when we’re looking at a new car.
I’m in the same boat, specifically looking at Toyota. I love my current Prius and plan to have my next car be full electric. It’d be an easy choice if Toyota had an affordable offering.
Which, I havent kept up with current all electric vehicles but it looks like Toyota has something now? Don’t know much about this bZ4X though. I’ll have to do a bit more research.
Don’t hold your breath on Toyota. They’re still huffing their hydrogen crack pipe. Until they commit to abandoning that silly dead end I’ll wager all of their EV offerings are going to be perfunctory compliance vehicles with minimal effort behind them or rebadges of other cars.
As a RAV4 owner, I know what you mean. Toyota and Honda both make good, affordable, reliable stuff. But I’m not sure either of them is gonna be big players in the EV market this decade. Counterintuitively, I’d expect better from Ford on that front than Toyota across the next five years. I’d be happy to be proven wrong, but Toyota seems afraid to get away from gas entirely unless it’s through their hydrogen cells.
From all accounts, the bZ4X is just a half assed compliance car and probably not worth the money. I’d wait to buy a Toyota EV until they begin rolling out their new solid state batteries which are supposed to come in '25 or '26.
This piques my interest, however with absolutely horrid experiences with Hyundai/kia dealers in the past, I have my reservations. Especially as an ev is not as easily user serviceable compared to a traditional gasoline variant.
Will wait to see, but really excited for the rivian r3. I’m glad low cost commuter evs are becoming a thing… I’m just waiting for Toyota/honda to create a compelling offering.
Rivians do look kind of nice but I’m not willing to support any company with an exclusive charging network because that’s just such a stupid awful thing to make and I don’t know why anyone accepts it. I don’t think people would accept like a Honda exclusive gas station so I don’t know why people do it with EVs.
(Actually it looks like rivian will open their network to other vehicles later this year which is good, I still think it’s stupid they ever made it exclusive in the first place but if they actually open it that’s reasonable)
Are Rivian actually bringing a car with a realistic price to market?
Side note: Agreed with your experience on Hyundai/Kia dealers, but I ended up getting an Ioniq 5 SEL AWD that - honestly - I absolutely love.
I had an XG350L, I think an '02, and it was good for a year or two before everything started failing on it. I’ve heard nothing but good things about their EVs from the past couple of years, but I’ll forever be wary of Hyundai/Kia. How long have you had your Ioniq? I love my '16 RAV4 but I know I’ll outlive it and it’ll get replaced by an EV when the time finally comes. Any concessions to be ready for? I rarely drive more than like 2 hours, so the range isn’t really a concern.
you’re basing your opinion of a company on a product they made over 20 years ago? lol
My parents never bought another Hyundai after a disappointing experience with a Hyundai Stellar. I’ve heard good things about the Ioniq 5 though.
10/10 would recommend. My only complaint is that the windshield wiper fluid reservoir is a tad small at only 2 litres.
I got my Ioniq 5 on 1 March, so obvious it’s early. The range on mine is a little short compared to some (~400 km from 80% charge), but it’s more than adequate and then some for what I need. As a matter of fact, I’ll be surprised if it struggles much during my upcoming move from Texas to New York.
That sort of trip used to be a guaranteed headache, but I’m sure by now you will find plenty of charging stations without even really trying. If it were me, I’d still try to map out the stops for peace of mind. You’re probably on 40 for a good chunk of that, and then 95. IIRC, 40 has you go through TN for an absurdly long time, probably like 20-25% of the total trip lol. I’m in NoVA and can warn you now to try to avoid being on or near the beltway 1500-1900 on a weekday haha. You might as well just stop and have a relaxed dinner and car charge if that’s how your timing falls.
But I’ll be leaving super early on a Friday, with my charging stops planned out using A Better Route Planner.
I’ve done the drive before. Thinking Austin to Nashville on day 1, then Nashville to Arlington on day 2 (I’ve got some friends there I’ll be staying with), and Arlington to NYC on day 3. 495 can indeed go fuck itself.
They’re looking to release two smaller SUVs in the next couple of years
https://youtu.be/k0Gt_PUyldc
TIL. I thought the R2 was going to be another halo product similar to their current offerings.
They seem like a more realist company than Tesla or lucid. Their first vehicles being Amazon delivery trucks seems to ground them a bit more than a company trying to do purely luxury vehicles.
I mean they’re still expensive, but it’s a start I guess…
As someone who lives not far from their HQ, FUCK Tesla. Scam company lead by a guy who’s actively trying to destroy the local watershed. Lucid I think are trying to do well, but they’re definitely not competing in the typical mass market segment in the same way that Hyundai, Honda, et al are.
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I get your point; I don’t really trust our closest Kia dealership and my wife’s Soul had the issue with the motor burning too much oil, which eventually killed the motor and took 7 weeks to replace. Kia paid for it all (including the Bolt EUV rental we wound up in which was my first long-term experience with an EV), but it was still a hassle. Still, I’m really interested in an EV9 when we’re looking at a new car.
See if you can get it on the used market. Some people find charging doesn’t fit in their lifestyle unfortunately.
I’m in the same boat, specifically looking at Toyota. I love my current Prius and plan to have my next car be full electric. It’d be an easy choice if Toyota had an affordable offering.
Which, I havent kept up with current all electric vehicles but it looks like Toyota has something now? Don’t know much about this bZ4X though. I’ll have to do a bit more research.
Don’t hold your breath on Toyota. They’re still huffing their hydrogen crack pipe. Until they commit to abandoning that silly dead end I’ll wager all of their EV offerings are going to be perfunctory compliance vehicles with minimal effort behind them or rebadges of other cars.
As a RAV4 owner, I know what you mean. Toyota and Honda both make good, affordable, reliable stuff. But I’m not sure either of them is gonna be big players in the EV market this decade. Counterintuitively, I’d expect better from Ford on that front than Toyota across the next five years. I’d be happy to be proven wrong, but Toyota seems afraid to get away from gas entirely unless it’s through their hydrogen cells.
As a Ford owner, I sure hope you’re right. I like mine and want an EV but the Lightning is insanely overpriced.
From all accounts, the bZ4X is just a half assed compliance car and probably not worth the money. I’d wait to buy a Toyota EV until they begin rolling out their new solid state batteries which are supposed to come in '25 or '26.