Israel’s foreign minister has said that an arms embargo on his country would lead to the elimination of the Israeli state and “a second Holocaust”.

Gideon Saar was speaking on Tuesday at an international conference on antisemitism in Jerusalem.

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    12 days ago

    “Does israel have a right to exist?”

    The answer to this is: did nazi Germany have a right to exist?

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      I wonder if we can find a new way of describing the notion of “Israel existing.” It seems opponents believe we mean killing the occupants of Israel or (somehow removing the area entirely) rather than reforging the state itself. It’s not like we don’t want the geographical region to continue existing.

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          Generally I’m not interested in what Israel as the right to become. I would rather “Israel doesn’t have the right to not be Palestine” (phrased better, perhaps?)

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            11 days ago

            Israel has to become something. It can’t stay the way it is.

            Allowing it to become Palestine again is just the compromise position.

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              Good point. Still, “not having the right to exist” sounds to me – and more importantly, to those undecided on the issue – like it’s encouraging the destruction of the things that are in Israel, not the entity of Israel itself. Which is obviously not a take that’s likely to attract support.

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                That’s why I say it has a right to become Palestine. It will still exist, sort of, but in a revolutionary new form.

                And Israelis can become Palestinians.

                Assuming they aren’t just settlers that moved there recently to steal land, of course.

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                  11 days ago

                  What Israel has a right to do is not relevant. America has the right to become part of Canada. Israel remaining as it is is the problem – and more to the point, the problem is that people don’t see that as the problem.

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                    11 days ago

                    America has the right to become part of Canada.

                    Except Canadians don’t seem to want that.

                    What do you think “river to the sea” means? It means Israel will become Palestine again.

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                  11 days ago

                  if the world was fair, that tract of land in the middle east would become palestine, jewish immigrants would be allowed to live there and have full citizenship and rights, but a nice chunk of territory would be carved out of central or eastern europe to make “settlerania”.

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                    They dont “deserve” a land to settle any more than anyone else does. Their religion says they do but thats not how land ownership – or your “fairness” works at all.